@Refa I kind of answered this before but I have more thoughts after sleep. It's been literal years since I've seen him play but I think this is something town Dormio could do. I don't feel good about Oarfish votes but I don't have a problem with Dormio's (in terms of finding him scummy) because his case isn't actually wrong, I just disagree because my personal interactions with Oarfish have made me feel like they have strong conviction towards their cases that I don't feel like scum had, and without them I'd probably be in Dormio's camp.
Shadoweh feels like they're getting caught on really small things, not sure what to make of it? I do kind of agree with Prims has felt a little off in places though, namely that the voteswap to Abu felt kinda... uncaring? And I'm confused why their gut reaction to Abu's claim was to lynch them? I don't think a lot of people would crumb as a vig either since it's so provable and the wagon popped up really quickly, I can see why Abu as either alignment wouldn't feel like they're being lynched (or have strong scumreads to vig N1 organically tbh).
I don't actually have problems with the way Abu claimed in terms of "this is a scummy post" but I think the "I surrender" post is reaaally bad, even if the situation around it feels wrong? The only one of the later pushes I liked on them was Conq's and that was the one that made them bail. I think I could see town!Abu wanting to quit based on the general context of the game and not wanting to put more effort in. Meh.
Anyway, I'm not big on Serela's post where they voted them? I do believe they were cut off by the vig claim but I think they would've had at least some kind of reaction to it beyond "this is notable". It looks more like an angle of "I don't know which angle to push but if I can still get the lynch through, this is good". It's weird because they don't even vanish, they stay around to write 3 more paragraphs on Shadoweh while responding to Abu but somehow the vig thing never crosses their mind. This is moot if Abu flips scum but bothers me a lot if they aren't.
Rai's response to the Abu wagon is kinda confusing. They say "these parts of the wagon concern me" but it's only talking about Prims' crumb thing and responding to a comment Abu made saying "your wagon could be made up of any alignment", which isn't really useful. In general their stance of the whole wagon bothers me: "I don't feel either way about the wagon, so it can go through" without offering much of an opinion on Abu himself.
I have 2 pages still to read properly but I'm eating soon and this is already too long. I am conflicted about Abu's posts themselves (the best I can give him is "I understand why town!Abu would post this) but the wagon on them has a lot of parts I don't like and I would rather lynch Raikaria, although I think that might be impossible. It feels like we're cruising towards a mislynch though.
