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The "danger" gacha / mobages poses to Touhou is grossly overstated tbh.

Mobile games can be surprisingly healthy for Touhou, as they help alleviate a lot of concerns regarding retention of both fans and creators as well as the introduction of new blood. A pretty underated aspect of the Touhou mobile game scene specifically is how the companies that make those ALWAYS make a conscious effort in involving the community : there are always touhou music circles involved in the making of the soundtrack, always touhou fanartists responsible for the fanarts, and eventually touhou content creators who make content based of the actual game (the Japanese ones generally enjoyed quite a boon in this gacha period of touhou) : this obviously means MONEY and profits for all the people concerned. For the content creators, this obviously means more lucrative opportunities linked to touhou specifically, and the average 2hu consumer enjoyer get to have more 2hu related stuff to look forward to. So probably helpful in relation to the issue of people drifting to others IP due to either new opportunities or lack of content. And besides potentially introducing newfriends to the series, it creates ANOTHER breed of touhou fan communities for the ones who discovered this series and are gathered together around such or such touhou mobile game : being both accessible (like c'mon, don't you guys have phones ?) and far less intimidating than the bullet hell games surely means better reach. It's also pretty possible that average mobile games fans who are looking for new releases got introduced here simply because they just tried to get in these touhou mobile game's communities in their pursuit of the hobby.

As for the much dreaded excessive commercialization aspects, it's a pretty legitimate concern for sure, but not necessarily realistic. I'm gonna illustrate how things actually go in reality with a little story time(<3) + a comparison between touhou cannonball and touhou lost word :

Back when it was first announced, pretty much NOBODY was especially thrilled about touhou getting gacha, plus there being the fear of seeing the infamous predatory practices in gacha introducing themselves in touhou : touhou cannonball went under MASSIVE scrutiny by the community (who greatly believed in the usual doujin way of doing things), but no excessive problem was found initially. THEN it happened : the first big event of the game : it was set to introduce FOUR FES (or UFES ? not so sure anymore) character (basically super rare ones that you *could* get in the gacha) with busted stats getting introduced together in an event that was set to last for the later half of december : so basically, you had VERY rare and powerful girls that you could only roll for in a VERY BUSY TIME OF THE MONTH, not to mention the fact that people still had to go to school, work, whatever social engagements they have, and the festivities for that time of the year, and furthermore, management only gave like 50 of the stuff you use to get reroll for the occasion (and I believe it took 10 of those to do one roll) : wild stuff. It was quite obvious that getting the people to fork the money in order to get them was the big idea. "The greedy face of management has shown itself", the community that gave the game a chance was NOT HAPPY, the stream in which the event was announced was lambasted by dislikes to high hell (cuz it was in an era were you could just see the dislike bar), people reviewbombed the crap out of the game, and whenever somebody uploaded a Touhou cannonball video, they'd suspiciously get A LOT of dislikes without a proper explanation too (so obviously discouraging) : with the loss of the community's support and the initial interest that it had for being the first touhou gacha, well, touhou cannonball slowly but surely sled into the realm of irrelevancy, and unto termination. A sad (but deserved) story and a cautionnary tale for future Touhou gacha projects to come ...

But much later, when another much more appreciated touhou gacha called touhou lost word, who enjoyed the reputation of being unusually nice in its practices when compared to other gachas, reached it's first anniversary, it also did something that basically introduced SIX very rare (FES, UFES or whatever ??? dunno about gacha linguo) characters : skepticism was on the rise, and quite a bit of dislike went on the video while the stream hasn't even ended, BUT, however ... they did things way more reasonably : about 2 of the rare characters over a period of time. Touhou lost word would later introduce new characters to the gacha in a somewhat similar fashion without provoking the ire of the community (not to mention it's interpretation of the characters were more true to life and had more personnality than the curated, fake-like "family friendly" 2hus from cannonball) : to this day Touhou lost word remains pretty much the face of touhou gacha, and they add and innovate more of their initial formula by doing music videos, making fumos, minigames and even various collabs ...

Anyway, the point is quite simple : touhou fans ain't stupid ; any touhou gacha with bad or nefarious monetization schemes are gonna get rejected by the community, pushed into irrelevance and unto end of service : this means that companies that wanna do touhou gacha are REALLY incentivized to go for more consumer-friendly practices and have an understanding and a respect for the culture ; while those who give into corpo greed are just gonna natural-selection themselves out of the way (we're a corporate greed hating ecosystem) :

So, with companies incentivized to "do better" or fail, and the fact that ZUN is still the guy who owns the copyright anyway, corpos can't just mess around with the IP nor the community in an aggravating way without offing themselves.



All in all, I think that considering the economic opportunities plus the exposure that the fan creators get (I myself discovered Morimori Atsushi and ぱらどっと from Touhou lostword music), the additional touhou content that the average fan can put their teeth into (plus more community involvement born from the new thing OR straight up birth of new Touhou communities that are centered around the mobile game), and the various collabs and projects that clearly exceed the small scale of a doujin circles (touhou lostword and danmaku kagura getting big names for their music stuff for example), it's pretty fair to say that the Touhou venture into the realm of mobile games is *coughs blood* good actually.

I will never understand why touhou mobile games always *have* to be gacha of all things, though

... although potentially mistaking Touhou for a gacha series has got some serious cringe potential, I believe whatever misunderstandings may be would be handled by virtuous and patient gentlemen who totally won't be vulgar or rude in explaining the matter.

18 has what's pretty much loot boxes
Hardly, theres none of the real life financial element that enable predatory practices from greedy corpo-rats, the gambling aspect is hardly comparable, skill still takes priority over simply having good cards, and all cards can straight up be unlocked with a cheat anyway. It's more of a discover-and-unlock thing from roguelikes.
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Most issues come from stuff that's going on with the internet and game industry itself rather than something exclusive to Touhou, such as gacha over-saturation and social media/discord strawberries affecting fandoms and communities.

They have a point, ZUN does have full control over what fanworks to allow and could have put his foot down. Allowing a gacha is a double-edged sword - it does let Touhou reach new crowd, but when gacha fad eventually fades said crowd will mostly remember it as just another gacha franchise, which would be yet another "Touhou is an anime" situation.

Gotta give ZUN credit though, he does keep up with industry trends, for better or for worse, instead of letting things stagnate. 18 has what's pretty much loot boxes, and latest CoLA chapter is about AI. Let's just be thankful there hasn't been a Touhou NFT.
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I have some difficulty in understanding the moriya shrine OP since it seems like English isn't their first language so my brain gets all mixed up trying to read what they're getting at. But I get the feeling a lot of their wall of text is composed of fearmongering and misinterpretation of certain things (such as that FSS article.)

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Also he should stop doing strange retcons (because CoLA 37 is... something). But I do not know how to make him do it.

I also don't get what their issue is with the latest CoLA chapter other than Sumireko taking the spotlight again. What "strange retcons" are happening exactly (both in Touhou and Len'en since they brought it up)?

I can agree there is some issues with modern Touhou, but I don't think what OP suggests can fix it. Most issues come from stuff that's going on with the internet and game industry itself rather than something exclusive to Touhou, such as gacha over-saturation and social media/discord strawberries affecting fandoms and communities.

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Jinx really managed to do nearly everything what Touhou haters says about Touhou. He created outstanding BPoHC, there were a lot of fans who made fan content, but Jinx decided that he wanted to make gacha (nobody asked for it) himself, so he spent at least 6 years to close it in a year after release. He spent 7 years on nothing... not really, he also retconed canon. And what we have in result? Fandom is half dead, GML is discontinued, and there are still people who continue to donate him on FANBOX and watch his streams.
Glorious Memory Lane's been shelved? First I've heard of this, that's a shame. Part of me doubts it was because JynX decided to make BotC. What was the real problem? Also what is the issue with people donating to his FANBOX or watching his streams? Like OP doesn't elaborate on anything, what are they trying to say here?
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Rumia's Party Games / Re: In Defiance Of Transience (Tenshi Quest)
« Last post by Tom on Today at 05:53:20 AM »
> Thank miss Saigyouji and Youmu for offering their assistance at a dark time for a Celestial.
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Rumia's Party Games / Re: Nitori Quest 2 - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Last post by It's Purvis! on Today at 02:55:35 AM »
> Ask Orihime if she has any idea or advice about what, in the Tsurube Otoshi constellation or even multiple ones, would  tokens or crafted items would be accepted as Peace Offerings. 

>"It might not hurt," Orihime says. "But, well, if someone is already on guard..."

> "'On occasion'?"

>"Not like we got attacked every day," Koa says.

>_
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Rumia's Party Games / Re: Nitori Quest 2 - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Last post by Kilgamayan on Today at 02:21:53 AM »
> "'On occasion'?"
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Rumia's Party Games / Re: Nitori Quest 2 - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Last post by Branneg Xy on Today at 12:35:14 AM »
> "Oh."
> "Would she at least be cordial enough to talk about the star missing from the tsuribe otoshi constellation, maybe?"

> Ask Orihime if she has any idea or advice about what, in the Tsurube Otoshi constellation or even multiple ones, would  tokens or crafted items would be accepted as Peace Offerings. 
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#CancelZUN :meiling:

That said, it mentions there has been drama around gensokyo.org? What? I joined fandom when it pretty much already died, but I haven't seen anything of the sort.

It also predates me, but my impression is that all the various forums kind of had rivalries with each other. Pretty much all of them are dead so it's moot now (besides this one, which chugs on). Gensokyo.org's domain is expired, and eientei is full of spam.
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Rumia's Party Games / Re: Nitori Quest 2 - A Z-Machine Adventure
« Last post by It's Purvis! on Yesterday at 10:11:55 PM »
> If we said something here like 'Ah, I think I've heard about that from Marisa before', would Marisa be angry with us for breach of privacy possibly leading to insulting the subordinate of her friend?

>Depends on how mean you are about it, you think. Marisa tends to be pretty easygoing.

>_
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Touhou Addict Recovery Center / Re: A serious topic about modern Touhou
« Last post by CyberAngel on Yesterday at 06:08:17 PM »
#CancelZUN :meiling:

That said, it mentions there has been drama around gensokyo.org? What? I joined fandom when it pretty much already died, but I haven't seen anything of the sort.
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