Neo Forum Mafia - Game Over

[raikaria]

Raikaria, if someone goes from a larger wagon to a smaller wagon, why would that make them less likely to be scum in this game?

Guys, I think any information we can gain from discussion this hour would be really outweighed by the certainty of having lynched someone.
A lynch lets us analyze all the discussion and votes leading up to the flip. Plus, it's somewhat likely to hit scum.
An extra mafia kill has none of that.

And I'm pretty sure mafia would target someone more high-value to town than the town version of Abu.

Because:

1: If they're confident the mislynch will go through without them, it removes suspicion on them

2: No-Majority is pro-scum

Flipping to a lesser wagon with no explanation [Duskfall has been awful to explaining anything he's done this game, he's posted a lot of stuff but no real content. Combined with his seeming self-centered attitude; simply sheeping other people's reads; saying he's not even reading Dormio and voting with little~no explanation and this is why I read him really scummy] kinda makes me think this.

But it could be a mixture of me being frustrated in general at the amount of people saying and doing things without explaining why, and me already scumreading Dusk.

I like how rai just accused  me being of scummy for my first non-rvs vote seeming 'lazy', which has since been drowned out by a ton of other things

And also your general low-effort. It's too close to deadline for me to fish up everything. I'll elaborate Day2.

You're the wafflemaster because you usually waffle. A lot. I don't see either of these. Which is unusual for you and could indicate scum!Serela.

i literally did explain

Either I missed it in like 20 cuts or you think 'this is sus' is an explanation.

[Nuxl]

I've no idea what I'm doing

On one hand Abu has like way less partner equity I think?

On the other hand raik is doing way more and trying to push things which is better than Abu

Trilogy point is why are so many of the players standing off and not really getting involved I feel like people are pushing these two but not many believe in these two wagons which also scares me

i would probably turbo nnr here if i could but i'm kinda lost between the two, since the rest of the defense force just popped up now rofl

just i dont think raik will be able to get 3 votes?

[Nuxl]

Oh I got it wrong fire truck, raik is at l-4 zz

[zwerdjib]

ok league game ended i can elaborate now give me 2 mins

[NekoNekoRex]

I completely oppose a raikaria lynch and would point out that there is no good reason to lynch him over someone who has effectively given up and is not playing town

[Nuxl]

Will vote back on abu around :45

[Duskfall98]

Mafia was better when I felt less bad about tunneling and being a dick

[raikaria]

... Actually you know what?

I'm a Vanillia Townie. It's better I die than a Vig.

I think like usual in MotK Mafia it's between 2 townies getting lynched here.

Abu shoot Duskfall or Serela for me.

##Unvote
## Vote: Raikaria

[zwerdjib]

... Actually you know what?

I'm a Vanillia Townie. It's better I die than a Vig.

I think like usual in MotK Mafia it's between 2 townies getting lynched here.

Abu shoot Duskfall or Serela for me.

##Unvote
## Vote: Raikaria

AND THEN YOU POST SOMETHING TOWNIE WHY

[Nuxl]

... Actually you know what?

I'm a Vanillia Townie. It's better I die than a Vig.

I think like usual in MotK Mafia it's between 2 townies getting lynched here.

Abu shoot Duskfall or Serela for me.

##Unvote
## Vote: Raikaria

oh my god what the fire truck lmao

[Duskfall98]

Yeah Abu is what's happening, nnr would be decent otherwise this Maj thing is tough

[raikaria]

AND THEN YOU POST SOMETHING TOWNIE WHY

I'VE BEEN POSTING TOWNIE ALL DAY

[Kilgamayan]

Vote Count 1.16

AbuHumaid (YuugenMagan) (7): Serela, Duskfall98, Conqueror, Prims, Dormio Ergo Sum, Nuxl, Serela, O4rfish, Niektory, sb
Raikaria (Sunny Milk) (6): Serela, zwerdjib, Conqueror, Prims, sb, Refa, Duskfall98, AbuHumaid, zwerdjib, Shadoweh, Raikaria
Dormio (Ran Yakumo) (1): sb, Niektory, Xinnidy
Shadoweh (Yuuka Kazami) (1): Conqueror, Dormio Ergo Sum, ActionDan, zwerdjib, Conqueror, sb, Refa, O4rfish
Serela (Koishi Komeiji) (1): Serela, Prims, NekoNekoRex
Duskfall98 (Shinki) (0): Nuxl, Raikaria, AbuHumaid, Shadoweh
NekoNekoRex (Chen) (0): zwerdjib, Niektory, O4rfish, zwerdjib
Prims (Narumi Yatadera) (0): Raikaria, Shadoweh
O4rfish (Rumia) (0): Raikaria, Dormio Ergo Sum
Conqueror (Tenshi Hinanawi) (0): Shadoweh
sb (Sanae Kochiya) (0): Xinnidy
Xinnidy (Yumemi Okazaki) (0):
zwerdjib (Yuyuko Saigyouji) (0): AbuHumaid, Dormio Ergo Sum, O4rfish, Refa, NekoNekoRex
Refa (Reimu Hakurei) (0): zwerdjib
ActionDan (Rinnosuke Morichika) (0):
Nuxl (Youki Konpaku) (0): Prims, O4rfish, AbuHumaid, NekoNekoRex
Niektory (Yukari Yakumo) (0):

Not voting (1): Nuxl

With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch someone. You have about 25 minutes remaining to cast your votes.

[Duskfall98]

Raik all you've done is tunneled me

[zwerdjib]

I'VE BEEN POSTING TOWNIE ALL DAY

YOU SLIPPED TMI ZZZZZZ

[AbuHumaid]

... Actually you know what?

I'm a Vanillia Townie. It's better I die than a Vig.

I think like usual in MotK Mafia it's between 2 townies getting lynched here.

Abu shoot Duskfall or Serela for me.

##Unvote
## Vote: Raikaria

I respect that, boss

@Watcher on me tonight bby, I might get blocked.

[Duskfall98]

How many people are even online rn

[raikaria]

Raik all you've done is tunneled me

You know; except:

Pushing O4rfish

Asking for elaboration on people's votes

Pointing out various people with good points at various points.

Pointing out I didn't like something Prims said concerning Abu, which ActionDan already said. [Oh yeah I forgot Prims is one of my scumreads, he's probably 3rd]

[Serela]

that's not a slip zwerd, please

we're not lynching active player raikaria over scummy as hell abu if I have any say over this

Raikaria voting your own slot when you have a big wagon that's likely to be lynched who isn't you is basically never a good idea. You're assuming Abu is totally telling the truth when he could EASILY BE LYING, meanwhile, from your perspective, you are -modconfirmed town- (or scum who would at least be attempting to survive)

[Duskfall98]

Side note:

Raik just went from saying that he doesn't townread Abu to self voting himself to save Abu because he's such a strong townread

[NekoNekoRex]

Mafia sucks

[Duskfall98]

Mafia sucks

Agreed

[Serela]

pretty much just reading raikaria as dumb!town at this point. it could be a crazy maf gambit assuming that people will jump off his wagon for the self vote but i highly doubt it because  of how likely the abu lynch was seeming at the time imo

[Kilgamayan]

20 minutes!

[Duskfall98]

Think we should be lynching raik rn

[zwerdjib]

actually i guess i should still post the logic. scumslip could overrule towniness here if raik knows abu wagon is inevitable and just wants cred for it

cough

hajimeyo

Still think Dusk is the best lynch, but at this point it's clear that's not gonna happen. The only thing that makes me hesitate a little is him flipping from Abu onto my wagon; which is smaller. But at the same time; his vote on me feels like hard OMGUS.

Fully expecting if there's a cop for them to investigate me; seeing as I'm the counterwagon.

I dunno I'll just sit around during the night with my collection of pods. It requires quite a bit of effort to work with those, after all. I don't have any special tools. Maybe I'll wake up D2 and have some flash of an idea.

Or more likely get back from work and see like 10 pages; wagons on me and then frantically have to try and scumhunt through those pages while trying not to provoke what's probably a scum-led wagon on me.

this post. this is why i think raikaria is scum and just tmid

subconsciously, he leaves out the possibility of being shot by a vigilante as the counterwagon. this is scummy because it implies raikaria already knows what abu will flip and is certain he is the only vigilante in the setup

additionally, despite the vote on himself, i think hes also sure that abu is being lynched unless theres a last second cfd, which, if/since he is scum, he can mitigate anyway with the votes on abu and secure cred for himself d2

[Nuxl]

the self vote is kind of meaningless without any possible numbers to do it bc maj not plural

don't think we have enough to cfd literally anywhere else though, someone tell me if this is out of scum!raik's gambit range

[zwerdjib]

sidenote: STOP POSTING fire truckING REPLIES I CLICKED SUBMIT LIKE 7 TIMES LMAO

[AbuHumaid]

that's not a slip zwerd, please

we're not lynching active player raikaria over scummy as hell abu if I have any say over this

Raikaria voting your own slot when you have a big wagon that's likely to be lynched who isn't you is basically never a good idea. You're assuming Abu is totally telling the truth when he could EASILY BE LYING, meanwhile, from your perspective, you are -modconfirmed town- (or scum who would at least be attempting to survive)

Okay, you don't know for sure if my claim is real or not, but I could prove it tonight, why do I feel like you're just afraid you'll catch the bullet and don't actually believe I'm scum?

[Duskfall98]

actually i guess i should still post the logic. scumslip could overrule towniness here if raik knows abu wagon is inevitable and just wants cred for it

cough

hajimeyo

this post. this is why i think raikaria is scum and just tmid

subconsciously, he leaves out the possibility of being shot by a vigilante as the counterwagon. this is scummy because it implies raikaria already knows what abu will flip and is certain he is the only vigilante in the setup

additionally, despite the vote on himself, i think hes also sure that abu is being lynched unless theres a last second cfd, which, if/since he is scum, he can mitigate anyway with the votes on abu and secure cred for himself d2

There's a good chance he's actually just tming Abu town here I think?