OK I did glance over the thread when I got home from work before bed (zzzzzzzzz) but let's start from the beginning of d2 again
I do still think Daiya is scummy but BBM's argument otherwise (based on the yaersult/meow wagon interactions lateday) is decent. I'm still kind of interested in voting them because I think an newbie scum is still likely to flop around where they think is best? And yaersulf seemed to be straight up trolling enough yesterday even while they were the biggest wagon that I wouldn't be surprised if they're scum either so "well this makes the most sense if daiya/yaersulf are scumbuddies" is an argument that wouldn't deter me with neither flipped. (later he says daiya's town for not trying to push a waffle vote at the start of d1:I think this is trying a bit hard to find clear reasons, voting nucleus over that is I think a generally bad idea for any alignment because it's simply
not scummy, especially from someone on their first game)
nnr flips out over smartbomb saying he has cute ears... which... catgirls... uhm lmao. I don't think scum would have weird random info like this on d1 before they could even use a rolecop or something, nor would they make a case about it (it's cat ears, plz), so I'm PRETTY SURE he's just talking about YOU PRESENTING AS A CATGIRL. that being said this just kind of solidifies my nnr townread. i don't think he'd do this random freakout as a publicity stunt as scum or even conceive of it :U
If you still want to hear my opinion Serela seems most suspicious since they were present on all 3 out of the 4 wagons and dropped the hammer on meow.
Fabloo was my scumread for most of the day and the other two wagons my vote was literally being held hostage by the need to consolidate. Mislynching is better than no-lynching as most people here are saying, when the end of the day comes up you decide which of the actual possible lynches are best even if you don't like them.
I would have rather lynched Daiya but meow and yaersulf were presented as the only realistic options. I TRIED to push Daiya over them a second time when like 3 people said "hmm or we could lynch daiya instead tho" but it didn't work :C Yaersulf doesn't look GREAT and I wouldn't have entirely minded but Daiya looked like, actually kind of scummy which is a lot better? I hopped off Meow because they came back with a comparatively pretty good post while Yaersulf flopped around trolling.
RE:BBM about my play, yeah, I didn't really have any strong priorities after Fabloo turned out to be a mason @_@ Daiya was my only other thing and lots of people TALKED about lynching Daiya but for some reason no want wanted to like, legitimately actually vote them? Then at the end of the day we had the meow lynch coming up and a bunch of people are like, "aww maybe we really should have lynched daiya instead, oh well too late" and I'm like, aghghghghghghhhhhhhh. Yeah I still think Daiya is scummy, yaersulf could go either way. The vote started for consolidation only, but then I didn't really like the way he reacted to being wagoned (trolling thread, selfvoting, flopping vote all over the place), but it's still all "throwing my hands up on the air having no idea because players on their first game". I definitely don't townread them, their end-of-day shenanigans has me on a scum lean
lastly, if you're scum and your buddies are within raikaria/banana/smartbomb/nucleus I suggest you give up. I'm a 5-shot vig who can use all my shots in one phase and I'm planning on killing all of you tonight because that's what my PoE is down to.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODok, so speculation on nucleus's role that is probably dumb, but
according to him his role can't work on male characters. there are, according to the votals today, 2 male players alive. meow was also a male character, so basically there are 3 male characters total in the setup. now, nucleus claimed that his role is also a male character. so basically, his role condition prevents him from targeting exactly 2/14 of the other players in the game. does that strike anyone as a really useless limit in terms of role balancing?
Honestly this makes
more sense than if he couldn't target 30~50% of the players. Imagine a situation where there's like one random VT who's immune but the other person is
the scumteam's obligatory immune-to-town-pr member? Not too interested in delving deeper into this right now (and I don't like that disquieted is trying to push the newbie into fullclaiming for basically no reason, there is absolutely good reasons for them to NOT be claiming in this gamestate) but honestly I could potentially be interested in the implications of this lategame if it pans out. E.G. later nucleus is more solidly town (altho I already think they're town), only 1 male person is left, other male flipped town, it'd legit make me suspicious of the remaining one. maybe not "voting you purely off this" but a good supporting reason
Fabloo, unrelated, but this is why I deliberately pull my punches a lot of the time.
I vote someone once and someone tries to take it to its conclusion. Imagine if I made a case.
This seems overly cautious. "If I vote someone, people might actually lynch them. What if I was wrong? Imagine if I actually had made a case about it!" I don't understand how anyone would be able to actually play the game if we all thought like this XD Also, the cases you make are pretty important for everyone else reading you, too, so... anyway the second part of this post ("I write words to be clear, not because I think someone is unabashedly scum") is pretty logical.
That being said, I think disquieted has like... no real scumhunting stance? Their exclusive scumread is still Daiya. I mean, I AGREE with Daiya looking scummy, but also, calling daiya scummy takes no actual thread analysis or effort and that's pretty much where the content ends- ontop of being a waffley non-presence on D1 who'd write up things and then never take them anywhere or come up with actual significant opinions.
Polly:I was voting meow for consolidation purposes when they came back and made a good post and I'm like "yeah, no, I don't even want to vote this for consolidation anymore, yaer meanwhile is here trolling and looks way worse, I'm going over to THAT wagon again please. Also Daiya is still the only person I legit think is scummy can we do that wagon that everyone keeps mentioning interest in???" I don't even think this looks like a waffle.
Still waiting on Banana to make their grand appearance. It just occurred to me I can't remember anything Rai's done all game, which isn't a great sign. BBM/NNR/Waffle all probably town. PX/Fabloo masons. Tom is null. Polly I still can't read tbh because I feel like they declare a lot of stuff scummy that I'm like "yeah but actually, no, why are you even pushing this" which doesn't give me a good vibe, but they're also the most active player probably and that effort doesn't look like scum. Yaersulf somewhat of a scum lean. Daiya/Disquieted scummy oh yes I meant to do this in my earlier paragraph about them
##Vote:Disquietedd1 non-commital waffley non-presence talking about things but going nowhere, entering d2 their only significant opinion is daiya, looks like scum going nowhere and sitting on the easy newbie vote
Ok I think that's everyone @.@ oh cut by daiya. Oh, Daiya does have mafia experience? I didn't know that, sorry whoops been calling you one of the first-game-newbies :U IIRC this is Daiya's first post today, do you have opinions about people yo :U