I am interested of how edgy Touhou was in its earlier years on the Windows era, even if it means derailing the thread. Give any examples?

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Alright fam, here are some examples of characters saying/doing awful things that i remember (keep in mind that these examples are only from the first Windows era and early portion of the second era, back when Touhou was going through its awful "edgy period". this stuff didn't stop there though, i can argue that it actually got worse):

- Nazrin mentioning something about how her mice love human meat (UFO)

- Reimu threatening to tear Reisen's skin off (IN)

- Reimu assaulting a random harmless youkai for no reason other than stealing her book (Marisa later attacked her as well) (CoLA chapter 1-2)

- Reimu verbally assaulting Kogasa for no reason (UFO)

- Yukari physically abusing Ran (another stupid canon thing that i vehemently hate with a passion) and then defending said abuse when Aya (y'know it's bad when someone like Aya is shocked by you) calls her out (BAiJR interview with Yukari)

- Komachi saying that nobody will care if Reimu commits suicide (PoFV)

- Sakuya threatening to kill Chen (i think) (PCB)

- Reimu generally being an insensitive A-hole who only cares about herself and nothing else (literally almost every game and print work featuring Reimu)

- Koishi threatening to kill Marisa and decorate the palace with her guts (SA)

- Eirin being portrayed as an evil and abusive person in that Reisen manga (to be fair, this one doesn't exactly count cuz the manga isn't canon and ZUN wasn't involved in the writing process)

- other examples i probably missed

-Dishonorable mention: Reimu gleefully MURDERING a random nobody just because he turned into a youkai (this isn't from Touhou's early years but i wanted to include it to highlight just how goddamn stupid this is to me. Couldn't she have just, i dunno forcefully turned him back into a human? And she killed him for a lame motive too, if it really was a "great sin" to become a youkai then i imagine the guy would have gotten punished in some other way, maybe judged by the Yama? Does Reimu have the authority to punish people who commit "great sins" by literally executing them? I think not. Where's Eiki when you need her?!? I'm definitely missing something here, but this just goes to show that Reimu doesn't have a problem with killing people)

This is my main gripe with Touhou as a whole, Reimu in particular. She tends to act like an awful person and does awful things without ever facing any consequences (the only thing she got was a slap on the wrist from Eiki) because almost everyone else is either apathetic or just as bad as her. This makes it kind of hard for me to enjoy Touhou

I'm so glad that ZUN killed this era, but Reimu is still the same albeit more calm. But hey i'm not the one who writes the 2hus so i'll have to deal with it

I used to dislike the Fanon for bastardizing the characters and turning them into one-dimensional Anime archetypes, but SOMETIMES it arguably does a better job at characterizing the 2hus than the Canon does

DiPP discussions kinda appears every now and then, and we kinda have one on this here forum here
https://www.shrinemaiden.com/index.php?topic=175.0
As far as Alice's characterization goes, PCB kinda come from a time where 2hus are relatively more edgy, where they not only spew threats or death threats quite casually, but also straight up mention eating humans.

True. Touhou used to be obnoxiously edgy in the 2000s, with characters spewing the most psychotic and disturbing sentences known to man out of nowhere and generally being awful. It seems that this edgy era kinda died down in 2010s, maybe because ZUN realized that being edgy wasn't considered cool anymore, or maybe because he realized that making every character a mentally unstable A-hole wasn't gonna cut it. Although the occasional deranged statements are still here

I'm really having a hard time finding more about the original Miracle Party -Fushigi no Gensokyo 2. All results from Google lead me to Touhou Genso Wanderer Lotus Labyrinth R or even to senseless results. I really would love playing the whole series. That is, assuming there's an english translation for Miracle Party -Fushigi no Gensokyo 2 already.

EDIT: found some stuff, but nothing about a translation so far T-T

LLR is not a better version of Miracle Party -Fushigi no Gensokyo 2-. The 2 games have different stories and FORESIGHT yes, it's Fushigi no Gensokyo 4. As for the first Fushigi no Gensokyo, it's not available anymore and CHRONICLE is the better version to play it and the translation project for the original Fushigi no Gensokyo it's on hiatus/cancelled.

So which "Fushigi" is Touhou Genso Wanderer Lotus Labyrinth R?

BTW, I would like to see if I can help you with some image editing(not videos tho). I don't have a Discord account but I'll make one tomorrow(it's pretty late here).

> Do we know anything about such an alphabet or such an empire?

> You have heard about the empire but never got there before it's fall.

> Raise our eyebrows in interest.
> "Really? What'd'ya find?"

> Kogasa explains "Well you see, I don't have much literature that's not directly related to smithing, so I've just been hopping in and out of Kosuzu's bookstore to 'browse'. Last night I was able to stay a bit longer than usual before closing time thanks to a customer keeping Kosuzu occupied, which is when I found the symbols in a journal describing faraway places. Specifically in the chapter about the Latin alphabet, which was apparently used in a grand empire long ago."