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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #90 on: May 30, 2020, 04:24:04 PM »
everyones gonna pick up eavesdrop

I haven't put it on my list; partially because of timezones. I'll probobly get all the info like 6 hours after it's any use.


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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #91 on: May 30, 2020, 04:34:35 PM »
I haven't put it on my list; partially because of timezones. I'll probobly get all the info like 6 hours after it's any use.

probably*

and i forgot you were even itg so good job

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #92 on: May 30, 2020, 05:17:00 PM »
haven't read through the original defcon yet, but i do find myself doubting the usefulness of the eavesdropper. it sounds cool and op on paper (in mons, 30% is practically guaranteed), but with its presence itg already known, I feel like it could be used by the scumteam to spread disinformation.

otherwise, i trust all of you not to go for the mass vigging strat. having some on-hand could be useful, but the info roles should take prio. will i go for them myself? who knows.

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #93 on: May 30, 2020, 05:22:48 PM »
i expect a rapid massclaim at defcon 3

if we are going to break the setup were gonna do it based on peoples roles and what theyve chosen, not based off giving every single person a vig
zizi, this kinda reminds me of greater idea. right?? but with both the offensive and defensive nuke being viable claims here, idt a massclaim would really help

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #94 on: May 30, 2020, 05:23:46 PM »
and im locking myself as town; i expect you to do the same, reader

if i die n1 dont be surprised

and if i dont, ive probably gotten the air base ive wanted


Instinctively hate people who claim what they are doing is Town, and claiming they will be the NK.


Would nuke/10

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #95 on: May 30, 2020, 05:29:59 PM »
ah and nucleus throwing shade on dormio like that is kinda weird. but last game he had a habit of buttering people up, so i'm not as sus of him as i should be considering how anti-town his plan is. think he's worth keeping an eye on regardless

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #96 on: May 30, 2020, 05:39:32 PM »
zizi, this kinda reminds me of greater idea. right?? but with both the offensive and defensive nuke being viable claims here, idt a massclaim would really help

if we expect the minimum amount of honest answers (8)

we already know over half the setup

this is pretty simple

theres no reason to not do it tbh

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #97 on: May 30, 2020, 05:41:59 PM »
if we expect the minimum amount of honest answers (8)

we already know over half the setup

this is pretty simple

theres no reason to not do it tbh

i mean, yeah, you cant tell whos being honest

but thats what people dying is for

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #98 on: May 30, 2020, 06:06:01 PM »

Instinctively hate people who claim what they are doing is Town, and claiming they will be the NK.


Would nuke/10

lets hope i dont get the aircraft carrier i want then, yeah?

heh

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #99 on: May 30, 2020, 09:22:20 PM »
we cant vote so pretend im voting dormio right now

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2020, 12:36:46 AM »
wow yall are boring

Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2020, 01:15:03 AM »
Zeep you can be town after all those posts, though the eimm side of me just wants to blast you for the hell of it.

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #102 on: May 31, 2020, 01:17:10 AM »
Scumreads, zwerdijib Chihiro Yaersulf

Serial killer, Domio, always Dormio

Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #103 on: May 31, 2020, 02:07:48 AM »
Could you not spell the name wrong -.-

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #104 on: May 31, 2020, 02:39:48 AM »
Zeep you can be town after all those posts, though the eimm side of me just wants to blast you for the hell of it.

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #105 on: May 31, 2020, 03:04:27 AM »
Has it not been 24 hours, where's DEFCON 3?

Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #106 on: May 31, 2020, 03:17:54 AM »
sou desu ka?

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #107 on: May 31, 2020, 03:34:41 AM »
Has it not been 24 hours, where's DEFCON 3?

nnr is probably not awake or at work fwict

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #108 on: May 31, 2020, 06:37:28 AM »
sorry I've been pretty busy with something, the update will be a bit, I need to sort out role selection
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #109 on: May 31, 2020, 07:31:13 AM »
wow yall are boring


At least this time I get to threaten whoever I don't like with nukes.


Mmm, nukes.

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #110 on: May 31, 2020, 08:05:26 AM »
DEFCON 3
Lynch Phase 1



Quote
PYONGYANG (Weekly World News) - Kim Jong-un singlehandedly conquers the Moon.

All players have deployed their drafted role. If you have not received a role, please contact me privately.
Nuclear attacks are NOT authorized.

It is now the first round of voting to decide which player will be conventionally bombed.
You have a bit less than 5 days to decide on a lynch. With 12 players, it takes 7 to lynch.

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« Last Edit: May 31, 2020, 11:18:09 AM by NekoNekoRex »
Kilga is this right; like is this person seriously the player, and it's not some alias or something that's designed to be deliberately obfuscating? NekoNekoRex. Who the hell is that :C   ~Poya Aaaa (Serela), Bunny Must Die Mafia

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #111 on: May 31, 2020, 08:25:49 AM »
Pick a real, non-garbage character kthx.
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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #112 on: May 31, 2020, 09:03:26 AM »
Nice play Dorms, I am not sure who to actually lynch first now.

##Vote Dormio

You are too dangerous to keep around.

Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #113 on: May 31, 2020, 09:34:01 AM »
For being the only person that's actually done anything that could be contstrued as suspicious:

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #114 on: May 31, 2020, 11:57:39 AM »
I am going to case for a Dormio lynch.

My biblography consisted of mafiascum wiki, mafiascum general game format (Little Italy, Road to Rome), stance on Hydras (introduction of anoynimity), and Grey Labyrinth, as well as derivative games like Town of Salem (with high power roles such as Jesters, Coven).

And of course, past MotK games.

My theory to lynch Dormio is based on the hypothesis that MotK with a unique, identifiable community of personas polarise win-lose ratio towards scum.

There is a positive sentiment regarding to lose in a funny way. 'Serela in Lylo' is a highly recognisable meme.
 'Sky_P walls' is again very entertaining.

In particular, new players joining with an alias is fondly regarded, examples such as Cheez8, myself, are encouraged to perform and participate as much as possible, civilly.

To achieve a higher win percentage for town, again, based on the past track record of Dormio, I would dare suggest Dormio is a player whose survival bias towards 'scum winning'.

I dare cite Conqueror's words on a separate occassion in a postgame debacle, paraphrased, roughly meaning
"Player skill is not relevant to winning the game, a player can have 100% accurate scumreads but still be lynched before that information becomes useful. Otherwise, a player who is always lynched early can be associated with winning games due to the information provided from their flip."

Off memory, this argument was with ActionDan.

In summary, lynch Dormio.

NucleusWaffles

Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #115 on: May 31, 2020, 12:11:36 PM »
Footnote, Shadoweh, another highly acclaimed, long-time player exclaimed before to Serela in one post-game exchange.

I paraphrase roughly the intent being;
'How can you manage not to lynch Dormio at Lylo omg'

Whether in jest or in seriousness, I agree that while Serela is usually a conduit for a scumsided Lylo, Dormio personally drives the Lylo win towards a third-party/scum win.

Even on the ocassion of the most recent Neo Forum Mafia, Dormio was mainly there to generate buzz, post funny picture of trains and watch the meltdown as town won.

I argue that Dormio, with malignant intent and in a draft-based mafia, is not conductive to the town win condition, and is determined to extort more effort from his pursuers with a willing playstyle that involves wallposting, shifting between personas, and generally survivalist mindset.


Besides, he enjoy the graveyard more anyway.

Lynch Dormio.

Bardiche

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #116 on: May 31, 2020, 01:06:25 PM »
##Vote: NucleasWaffles


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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #117 on: May 31, 2020, 01:12:23 PM »
Just to make it clear: Nucleus's case is borderline bullying, effectively arguing that Dormio shouldn't be allowed to be in this game on the basis of being Dormio. I've never before read such bullstrawberries.

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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #118 on: May 31, 2020, 01:14:43 PM »
I have received a revelation from God, and I should lynch myself.

##Unvote
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Re: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 4)
« Reply #119 on: May 31, 2020, 01:21:06 PM »
Footnote, Shadoweh, another highly acclaimed, long-time player exclaimed before to Serela in one post-game exchange.

I paraphrase roughly the intent being;
'How can you manage not to lynch Dormio at Lylo omg'

Whether in jest or in seriousness, I agree that while Serela is usually a conduit for a scumsided Lylo, Dormio personally drives the Lylo win towards a third-party/scum win.

Even on the ocassion of the most recent Neo Forum Mafia, Dormio was mainly there to generate buzz, post funny picture of trains and watch the meltdown as town won.

I argue that Dormio, with malignant intent and in a draft-based mafia, is not conductive to the town win condition, and is determined to extort more effort from his pursuers with a willing playstyle that involves wallposting, shifting between personas, and generally survivalist mindset.


Besides, he enjoy the graveyard more anyway.

Lynch Dormio.

i mean, solid argument, but you need to be sure dormio is scum in the first place for any of this to be applicable