Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 1, Phase 1)

[zwerdjib]

Just to make it clear: Nucleus's case is borderline bullying, effectively arguing that Dormio shouldn't be allowed to be in this game on the basis of being Dormio. I've never before read such bullstrawberries.

this is how meta works

see response above however

[Daiya]

do kind of see his point, but dormio hasn't done anything yet lmao. idk why he'd go after him for meta when he has three supposed scumreads

[zwerdjib]

Pick a real, non-garbage character kthx.

##Vote: Chihiro Fujisaki

but that aside, anything else to say about this?

[Daiya]

I argue that Dormio, with malignant intent and in a draft-based mafia, is not conductive to the town win condition, and is determined to extort more effort from his pursuers with a willing playstyle that involves wallposting, shifting between personas, and generally survivalist mindset.


Besides, he enjoy the graveyard more anyway.

Lynch Dormio.

also, that's a real bold claim to make. who's to say that he can't be helpful as town?

that aside, explain your scumreads bro

[Daiya]

For being the only person that's actually done anything that could be contstrued as suspicious:

##Vote: NucleusWaffles

tone's whack

[NucleusWaffles]

The current flow of the conversation can be scum-directed (coordinated intent) to create smokescreen, or genuine town interest in the turn of events.

This page is free to skip.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Coolio.

##Unvote
##Vote: Daiya

Would like clarification with regards to the "tone's whack" comment towards Yaersulf.

[NucleusWaffles]

I am functionally a town VT, I did the gambit thing, I got the desired results.

Now I simply have faith in my fellow townspersons and *~resolve~* to win this for us.

I need to flip to confirm my allegiance to town, I may be wrong, but I want to get out of this asap.

This is an open setup with no ambiguities, I refuse to be boxed in as the designated mislynch in the lategame crossfire.

Please vote me and get me out of here.

[Daiya]

seems a bit more cautious than usual. that's about all there is to it

[Daiya]

I am functionally a town VT, I did the gambit thing, I got the desired results.

Now I simply have faith in my fellow townspersons and *~resolve~* to win this for us.

I need to flip to confirm my allegiance to town, I may be wrong, but I want to get out of this asap.

This is an open setup with no ambiguities, I refuse to be boxed in as the designated mislynch in the lategame crossfire.

Please vote me and get me out of here.

nucleus, if you're town there's nothing to gain from getting yourself killed here. if your supposed gambit worked already, then i'd like to know what your intentions were

[Yaersulf]

Obviously Nucleus has learned from last game that if you argue for your own lynch D1 you get to live until the end of the game. I mean, it worked for me so uh, good luck buddy.

[Yaersulf]

Nucleus was your gambit to steal a role from scum that you think would be dangerous in their hands?

[Daiya]

huuush. it's plausible, but don't give him any ideas

[NucleusWaffles]

This is now drama leading up to my lynch, to create spiciness and poisonous reads.

I can confirm with astute certainty I have not gambitted to steal a role from scum, and I am American with missle silo launch mode.

Please now lynch me so the rest of my teammates, whoever you are, follow the verified and true gamebreak method to win.

Barring that, please try and get as much information from my flip and the associated threads it must generate.

[Bardiche]

...sigh.

[NekoNekoRex]

There would be a votecount here bit I'm on my phone and clock into work in five minutes.

Remember to keep it cool and play to your wincon, generals.

[zwerdjib]

This is now drama leading up to my lynch, to create spiciness and poisonous reads.

I can confirm with astute certainty I have not gambitted to steal a role from scum, and I am American with missle silo launch mode.

Please now lynch me so the rest of my teammates, whoever you are, follow the verified and true gamebreak method to win.

Barring that, please try and get as much information from my flip and the associated threads it must generate.

we arent going to try to break the game

stop trying to die

[raikaria]

Back from work.

Food things then mafia. Basically dodgeing the ol prod.

[zwerdjib]

Back from work.

Food things then mafia. Basically dodgeing the ol prod.

no mafia THEN food

[meow56]

zwerdjib, during DEFCON 4 you said something about a massclaim at DEFCON 3. Are you gonna go anywhere with that?

[zwerdjib]

zwerdjib, during DEFCON 4 you said something about a massclaim at DEFCON 3. Are you gonna go anywhere with that?

SOU DA!

im an air base

[airplane noises]

your turn

and everyone elses turn

including raikaria

so far we have nucleus is a silo and i am an airbase

[Daiya]

stop claiming, smh. not everyone's gonna agree to that

[zwerdjib]

stop claiming, smh. not everyone's gonna agree to that

no

##vote daiya

[raikaria]

Obviously Nucleus has learned from last game that if you argue for your own lynch D1 you get to live until the end of the game. I mean, it worked for me so uh, good luck buddy.

And that's how it worked for me the game before that! Although my objective was to stop the Town Vig claim getting lynched over me as a VT.

SOU DA!

im an air base

[airplane noises]

your turn

and everyone elses turn

including raikaria

so far we have nucleus is a silo and i am an airbase

I do not agree with a massclaim as soon as we get our roles. Because this obviously gives scum easy targets of power roles.

I will claim if and when I feel my claim will be more useful than denying scum knowledge.

[Serela]

did you literally just claim bulletproof when we're not even massclaiming lmao

*laughs until crying, lays on floor, sobs*

##Vote NucleusWaffles

Nucleus is kind of insane (i would know, given i was just his scumbuddy) but i'd like to think he knows better as town than to literally instantly just selfvote and invite everyone to do the same. Scum!Nucleus on the otherhand would absolutely try to copy the townclearing gambit he's seen work before.

[zwerdjib]

i expect a rapid massclaim at defcon 3

if we are going to break the setup were gonna do it based on peoples roles and what theyve chosen, not based off giving every single person a vig

if we expect the minimum amount of honest answers (8)

we already know over half the setup

this is pretty simple

theres no reason to not do it tbh

RTFT.

[Serela]

suggesting we should massclaim =/= people actually massclaiming

and bulletproof may as well be Vanilla Townie if you just claim it immediately, in a game where everyone is at minimum guaranteed a vig

[Serela]

also yes I'm suggesting it's probably better to like

NOT have the potential town cop and town doc claim their roles???

[meow56]

Hmm.

zwerdjib, if you're this adamant about doing this massclaim, why didn't you bring it up at the start of DEFCON 3?

[Serela]

ok there's one exception:if you got Submarine as town I think it's best to claim

half the game is probably nukes, you're just a nuke with powerful anti-town utility that's completely nullified upon claiming, and if you took it so that scum/ITP wouldn't get it, there's not much reason not to claim it