Author Topic: Higurashi When They Cry Thread (Read 3142 times)

SeroVich · « **on:** May 10, 2024, 10:59:07 AM »

I am currently playing Higurashi: Onikakushi, and yeah I had fun. So, I wanna how is your experience reading it and what chapter you're currently playing (Like Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, etc.).

CyberAngel · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2024, 12:37:50 PM »

Huh, watched the anime just recently, was thinking to post about it in the appropriate thread. While it's less detailed than the games as far as I know, it's a very good mystery story that builds up well and plays around with character expectations. ...Just stay the heck away from 2020-21 seasons, they're little more than a bad fanfic.

SeroVich · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2024, 06:05:16 PM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 10, 2024, 12:37:50 PM

Huh, watched the anime just recently, was thinking to post about it in the appropriate thread. While it's less detailed than the games as far as I know, it's a very good mystery story that builds up well and plays around with character expectations. ...Just stay the heck away from 2020-21 seasons, they're little more than a bad fanfic.

Whaaat...? Is it that bad?

CyberAngel · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2024, 06:30:38 PM »

Quote from: SeroVich on May 10, 2024, 06:05:16 PM

Whaaat...? Is it that bad?

Artstyle makes characters look like they're shrink-wrapped, the violence is overdone way past the point of hilarity, and the plot has so many holes and facepalm-worthy moments it's painful to look at, when it's not a truncated copy-paste job anyway. I'm still going through them but so far I've done hour-long rants on my streams about every singe arc. And it's not even entertainingly bad, just sadly incompetent. Wouldn't advise anyone to see them, except if you want an example of a sequel that just completely misunderstands the appeal of original.

williewillus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2024, 06:16:04 AM »

I kinda sped through the anime without really absorbing much of it several years back. Maybe I'll read the VN's instead.

SeroVich · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2024, 06:22:02 PM »

Also, a nice reminder... For the love of what's holy and good, DO NOT SPOIL ME!! Okay...? Thanks.

CyberAngel · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2024, 06:58:30 PM »

Do post your thoughts as you go. Even I, someone for whom spoilers only spark the interest more, would agree this is best experienced blind. The stories masterfully build up expectations and then break them with awesome twists. So making notes to see how things change around could be fun to see.

SeroVich · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2024, 11:23:17 AM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 11, 2024, 06:58:30 PM

Do post your thoughts as you go. Even I, someone for whom spoilers only spark the interest more, would agree this is best experienced blind. The stories masterfully build up expectations and then break them with awesome twists. So making notes to see how things change around could be fun to see.

Interesting idea, thanks for suggesting that.

SeroVich · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2024, 05:44:33 PM »

That moment right here actually made me unnerved... O_O

CyberAngel · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2024, 06:05:39 PM »

Appropriate scene in the anime. Rena can be so creepy, I love her. (Also, your YT recommends are probably full of spoilers now, sorry ^^; )

SeroVich · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2024, 06:52:31 PM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 12, 2024, 06:05:39 PM

Appropriate scene in the anime. Rena can be so creepy, I love her. (Also, your YT recommends are probably full of spoilers now, sorry ^^; )

It was my own fault that I did search up some Higurashi stuff on YouTube. U_U (Also, the image I showed you was from my Steam screenshot of Onikakushi. [~~Also, my favorite character is Mion Sonozaki just because I got her as the result of this quiz, LOL!~~])

CyberAngel · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2024, 01:21:44 AM »

Now that you mention that moment, I do have a question in case/for when you finish Onikakushi.

Spoiler:

HartWurst · « **Reply #12 on:** May 20, 2024, 03:03:01 PM »

Read Higurashi and Umineko during quarantine and enjoyed both a good amount. Higurashi especially has some great atmosphere, especially with the original art I feel since the backgrounds made everything far more uncanny. The new art I'm not that big a fan of, but I think it isn't that big of a deal since Higurashi's writing is still good.

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 10, 2024, 06:30:38 PM

Artstyle makes characters look like they're shrink-wrapped, the violence is overdone way past the point of hilarity, and the plot has so many holes and facepalm-worthy moments it's painful to look at, when it's not a truncated copy-paste job anyway. I'm still going through them but so far I've done hour-long rants on my streams about every singe arc. And it's not even entertainingly bad, just sadly incompetent. Wouldn't advise anyone to see them, except if you want an example of a sequel that just completely misunderstands the appeal of original.

I get why Goutsu exists, as a way of linking it with the rest of When They Cry. But yeah I agree it's kinda just, bad. Nothing really felt earned during it and the motivations just fell flat. The worst part is that I feel like it could have been good if it was more thought out, but it felt like it was just being made up as it went. At the very least it added some stuff relating to Ciconia (assuming it's not a red herring) but given that that series has been in limbo for the past half-decade it doesn't really amount to much.

SeroVich · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2024, 06:05:56 PM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 10, 2024, 06:30:38 PM

I'm still going through them but so far I've done hour-long rants on my streams about every singe arc.

LOL, can I see the stream where you literally trashed the 2020-2021 anime adaption?

SeroVich · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2024, 06:08:23 PM »

(~~Also I need to stop my bad habit of not finishing Onikakushi...~~ )

CyberAngel · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2024, 06:51:05 PM »

Quote from: SeroVich on May 25, 2024, 06:05:56 PM

LOL, can I see the stream where you literally trashed the 2020-2021 anime adaption?

It was spread over quite a few streams, and half of them are already gone (wouldn't bother highlighting due to bad mic and lots of mumbling). Wouldn't advise it anyway since those seasons rely heavily on knowing the older ones and I had lots of issues with how story was handled so spoilers.

CyberAngel · « **Reply #16 on:** May 30, 2024, 05:54:06 PM »

Whole series is on Steam sale right now, for anyone interested but holding off.

https://store.steampowered.com/developer/07thExpansion

SeroVich · « **Reply #17 on:** May 30, 2024, 06:52:40 PM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 30, 2024, 05:54:06 PM

Whole series is on Steam sale right now, for anyone interested but holding off.

https://store.steampowered.com/developer/07thExpansion

Damn it... I should've bought the Steam gift card from the super-market. (；⌣̀_⌣́)

SeroVich · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2024, 07:34:57 PM »

Chapter 9 & 10 of Onikakushi gave me a sad feeling on my mind man... (╯_╰)

CyberAngel · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2024, 09:06:46 PM »

Things only get worse in question arcs, obviously. But that's needed for build-up to great payoff in answer arcs, and a well-earned victory in the end.

SeroVich · « **Reply #20 on:** June 07, 2024, 10:07:08 AM »

Quote from: HartWurst on May 20, 2024, 03:03:01 PM

Higurashi especially has some great atmosphere, especially with the original art I feel since the backgrounds made everything far more uncanny. The new art I'm not that big a fan of, but I think it isn't that big of a deal since Higurashi's writing is still good.

Huh, well... I use the Console sprites and BG using the 07th Mod. And truth to be told, I actually liked them.

SeroVich · « **Reply #21 on:** June 08, 2024, 06:45:10 PM »

I have....... A lot of things to say...

To say I was a little bit scared couldn't go further from the truth, I was actually on the edge of losing my crap, due to things happening. As I go further, it'll be full on spoilers.

Spoiler:

CyberAngel · « **Reply #22 on:** June 08, 2024, 10:13:55 PM »

More like Zack and Cloud I guess.

But yeah, probably my favourite dramatic moment here. (~~Which is why I consider it a personal slight the way 2020 anime handled it in particular.~~)

SeroVich · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2024, 02:24:01 PM »

I just post the screenshots I took that I think are noteworthy while playing Onikakusi.

Spoiler:

CyberAngel · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2024, 02:48:45 PM »

Wait, what? They play zombie tag THAT early? In old anime it's shown in season 2, which concentrates on the last two answer arcs, and works well to foreshadow important elements of how they resolve the threat to the village in the end.

That said, once you're done with each game post your thoughts on what's going on with the village and the characters. A lot of stuff gets built up and recontextualized in different arcs as they go, and would be interesting to see how that changes.

HartWurst · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2024, 11:11:12 PM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on June 11, 2024, 02:48:45 PM

Wait, what? They play zombie tag THAT early? In old anime it's shown in season 2, which concentrates on the last two answer arcs, and works well to foreshadow important elements of how they resolve the threat to the village in the end.

That said, once you're done with each game post your thoughts on what's going on with the village and the characters. A lot of stuff gets built up and recontextualized in different arcs as they go, and would be interesting to see how that changes.

Yeah the chronology in the anime is a bit messed up since they had to cut down on the story a ton compared to the visual novel

SeroVich · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2024, 11:25:40 AM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 13, 2024, 01:21:44 AM

Now that you mention that moment, I do have a question in case/for when you finish Onikakushi.

Spoiler:
By that point, Rena has killed someone in at least some of the timelines. Which might explain her anxiety about the police. Is that mentioned or hinted at in the game? Because it's not in the anime.

Spoiler:

SeroVich · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2024, 12:31:02 PM »

At last.... I finished Onikakushi, so my next target is Chapter 2: "Watanagashi"!!

CyberAngel · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2024, 01:31:20 PM »

Quote from: SeroVich on June 21, 2024, 11:25:40 AM

Spoiler:
Nope, it wasn't mentioned on the VN either... Maybe in the future chapters.

Huh, guess there's only Keiichi's joke during a landfill visit, which is more of a replay bonus rather than a hint. But yeah, that was one of the rare interesting ideas from the newer seasons, but I guess it's more just them mixing different arcs as they want.

HartWurst · « **Reply #29 on:** June 22, 2024, 04:59:36 AM »

Quote from: CyberAngel on May 13, 2024, 01:21:44 AM

Now that you mention that moment, I do have a question in case/for when you finish Onikakushi.

Spoiler:
By that point, Rena has killed someone in at least some of the timelines. Which might explain her anxiety about the police. Is that mentioned or hinted at in the game? Because it's not in the anime.

Spoilers for Higurashi Kai (Arcs 5-8) and Sotsu:

Spoiler: