Ys Mafia (Current Phase: Game Over!)

[Disquieted]

So that means scum have a roleblocker and who cares what for the second ability, since they're gonna backseat it to carry the kill. I assume.

Tom, how did you think of Nucleus throughout the game?

[BigBangMeteor]

Serela are you lying about your role results?

[BigBangMeteor]

Tom, how does nucleus flipping scum affect your reads?

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Votecount
Tom (2): Fabloo, Yaersulf
banana spritzee (2): Serela, Tom
sb (0):
Fabloo (0):
raikaria (0):
Serela (0):
Yaersulf (0):
Disquieted (0):
BigBangMeteor (0):
Daiya (0):
PX (0):

There is currently 1 male character and 10 female characters in the game.
With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch!
Not voting: sb, raikaria, banana spritzee, Disquieted, BigBangMeteor, Daiya, PX

Time until day phase ends: [ Expired ]

[Serela]

EoD yesterday was so insanely wild, I got roped into the 'harmless third party fabloo" as he claimed ridiciulous things like Weak

third party waffle* Fabloo's the one that said it

[Tom]

My eyes are on everyone who was on Nucleus' wagon.  Especially NNR and sb who were on both Nucleus' wagon and Serela's L-1 wagon.  Fabloo and PX were also present on both wagons but I've got strong townreads on them.

[Serela]

Serela are you lying about your role results?

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my action failed I mean, I -guess- maybe it wasn't a roleblocker but? I guess raikaria could be ascetic?

[Serela]

My eyes are on everyone who was on Nucleus' wagon.  Especially NNR and sb who were on both Nucleus' wagon and Serela's L-1 wagon.  Fabloo and PX were also present on both wagons but I've got strong townreads on them.

nnr is dead.

[BigBangMeteor]

My eyes are on everyone who was on Nucleus' wagon.  Especially NNR and sb who were on both Nucleus' wagon and Serela's L-1 wagon.  Fabloo and PX were also present on both wagons but I've got strong townreads on them.

So you think the people who voted for Nucleus are scum or town?

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my action failed I mean, I -guess- maybe it wasn't a roleblocker but? I guess raikaria could be ascetic?

Raikaria should claim whether he's an ascetic. but you weren't roleblocked last night barring some role fire truckery.

are you third party serela? is that why you tried to get out of the 1v1 last minute?

[Tom]

Sorry I seem to have overlooked that, the day has just begun

[Tom]

So you think the people who voted for Nucleus are scum or town?

Well if I've got townreads on Fabloo and PX, sb is a scumread

[BigBangMeteor]

I guess I'm just confused why you're beginning your search for scum on the wagon that lynched scum? Do you think that scum had a specific reason for wanting to lynch their buddy?

[Tom]

Wouldn't that make them look town?  Like sacrifice one member to make everyone else stronger in terms of town reads?

[Serela]

Raikaria should claim whether he's an ascetic. but you weren't roleblocked last night barring some role fire truckery.

are you third party serela? is that why you tried to get out of the 1v1 last minute?

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wait, did you use an action to make me strongwilled or something? O:

i mean sorry if you weren't trying to out that but, you pretty much just claimed so as far as I can tell

[Disquieted]

I thought we were over the clown fiesta...

[BigBangMeteor]

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wait, did you use an action to make me strongwilled or something? O:

i mean sorry if you weren't trying to out that but, you pretty much just claimed so as far as I can tell

I used a role action. trying to stay purposely vague at least until we can eliminate another town role possibly interfering.

possibilities:
1) the scum roleblocker has a second part to their role that allows them to bypass my role (seems lame)
2) scum used multiple roles to both roleblock you and bypass my role (seems unlikely and also I feel like they wouldn't know that they had to even do that)
3) raikaria is an ascetic or there is a town safeguard who targeted raikaria (if so they should also claim)
4) you're scum, probably the third party

Why did you switch last minute to banana at the end of D2? what made you think that was a good idea?

[Serela]

EoD yesterday was so insanely wild, I got roped into the 'harmless third party waffles" as he claimed ridiciulous things like Weak and I'm always weak to turbowagons, oops. I do still want to lynch Banana tho', and Tom too.

[Disquieted]

there is circus music playing in my head again and I don't like it

[Serela]

It happened late one evening...

[BigBangMeteor]

Wouldn't that make them look town?  Like sacrifice one member to make everyone else stronger in terms of town reads?

sure but why do you suspect SB (and NNR before you realized he was dead) over Yaersulf/me/Daiya?

wondering if scum!Tom would wifom forgetting the scumkill lol

the harmless third party thing was so frustrating. why would harmless third party nucleus not claim that rather than keep saying he was town? ugh. I wish you were someone other than you but this does seem like a serela thing to do.

[BigBangMeteor]

Here's an interesting thing I noticed rereading. Not only do the new votals not show a non-gendered person, all the D2 votals were edited at the end of N2/start of D3 to also not show a non-gendered person.

Here's the first votals of D2:

Votecount
Serela (1): Polaris
Polaris (0):
Tom (0):
Fabloo (0):
raikaria (0):
banana spritzee (0):
Yaersulf (0):
Disquieted (0):
NucleusWaffles (0):
BigBangMeteor (0):
Daiya (0):
NekoNekoRex (0):
PX (0):

There are currently 2 male characters and 11 female characters in the game.
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Not voting: Tom, Fabloo, raikaria, banana spritzee, Serela, Yaersulf, Disquieted, NucleusWaffles, BigBangMeteor, Daiya, NekoNekoRex, PX

Time until day phase ends: [ Expired ]

[Yaersulf]

Rude, Dormio's trying to gaslight us.

[Yaersulf]

Daiya is another person that Nucleus was weirdly into the idea of being town, despite other people suspecting him. Could the scumteam be Tom/Nucleus/Daiya?

[BigBangMeteor]

I remember thinking it was weird that none of us noticed until like halfway through D2 that the gender count didnt add up to the number of players alive. Impossible to know now and probably also nothing for us to do anyways but I wonder if they started off female and only became non-gendered partway through the day or something. Also possible we're all just blind.

I was rereading nucleus before I got distracted by this serela stuff and god I have no idea. the nucleus/bard interactions are very weird. if bard hadnt subbed out I could see it being a newbscum player talking to his more experienced buddy. nucleus/tom feels like a super obvious link with nucleus hard defending him for so long. idk.

as a side note i relaly dislike banana's posts cuz they're all like "i think X but since i'm way behind who knows maybe I'm wrong" and it just feels like every statement he makes comes with some kind of qualifier.

tbh when serela first claimed he was hooked I was like 99% sure he was the third but now I'm starting to doubt it and am thinking of all these random scum role permutations. i'm also wondering if this is an NOC manhunt game. feels kinda weird for the scum rolecop to have like 2 extra redacted abilities.

[Yaersulf]

i'm also wondering if this is an NOC manhunt game. feels kinda weird for the scum rolecop to have like 2 extra redacted abilities.

Sorry but you're going to have to explain this one, these words mean nothing to me.

[Fabloo]

My vote on Tom is more comfort than confirmation. I want to think about things soon.

[Disquieted]

Pretty sure the two extra abilities are mafia chat and the factional kill, BBM.

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Here's an interesting thing I noticed rereading. Not only do the new votals not show a non-gendered person, all the D2 votals were edited at the end of N2/start of D3 to also not show a non-gendered person.

Why did nobody point out to me that 2+10 != 13.

[Yaersulf]

Holy crap.

Inb4 Dormio miscounted again.

[raikaria]

If you guys could have seen my face when I woke up Yesterday and saw after all the effort some players put into forceing my vote over to Serela; you ended up lynching Waffles anyway and I was right he was the scum.

Anyway I got to go to work in a short while [different shifts this week]. This is honestly mostly a prod dodge.

As for those who are voting me due to Nucleus' behavior all I have to say is I never defended them back

You were also MIA for like 95% of Day 2

With scum fully aware of a tracker, I tried to target not the obvscum, but the possibly 'townier' scum who might be doing a nightkill in their place. So, I went after Raikaria, assuming scumteam probably isn't a mix of banana/tom/waffle/daiya because that just sounds like a bad hosting idea? And I don't think NNR(rip)/BBM/SB/Disquieted are super likely to be scum. Then again, that's every veteran player other than Rai and masons, so that could be wrong @_@

But predictably for me not turning up dead, I was roleblocked :C

Wait; so after I hard pushed the Waffle wagon and had to be threatened and bullied off to switch to you, you class me as 'townie scum' and track me? I ultimately only switched because PX switched and I thought the Waffle Wagon was impossible. I

What is with this game and people claiming PR's and then claiming a nonsensical target? In what world is there a Waffle/Raikaria scumteam after D2?

Raikaria should claim whether he's an ascetic. but you weren't roleblocked last night barring some role fire truckery.

I am not an ascetic. I do not even know what that does.

Anyway, I'm not going to vote right now because I don't have time to re-read; but just gonna throw out some quick thoughts:

Tom - Still heavily suspect him, mostly due to not really contributing anything.

Polaris/SB - Waffles flipping scum makes Waffles obeying their request to fullclaim [which I thought was very suspicious] look really bad for SB's slot. SB was also one of the ones really trying to get me to lynch Serela.

Fabloo - ED2 behavior towards lynching Serela puts him in a bad light. In fact, the lack of giving me an actual reason/case when asked; perhaps it was more 'don't lynch Waffles'. In fact; his attitude was quite heavily 'We are not lynching a claimed power role D2'. AKA: 'We are not lynching Waffles'. Who flipped Red. If we'd lynched Serela and he'd flipped Green I'd be lynching him right now, but he didn ultimately swap to Waffles and Waffles flipped Red.

Yaersulf - He was on Waffles almost as long as me. Kinda makes me think he could be Town now, barring a major bus.