Author Topic: Ys Mafia (Current Phase: Game Over!) (Read 1026857 times)

Fabloo · « **Reply #1500 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:53:08 AM »

I want both of your flavors by the way. You're both out there so may as well claim it. Gender and all.

Serela. Nucleus.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #1501 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:53:18 AM »

Votecount
Serela (3): NekoNekoRex, PX, raikaria
NucleusWaffles (3): Serela, Yaersulf, sb
Disquieted (2): banana spritzee, Tom
raikaria (2): NucleusWaffles, Fabloo
Daiya (2): BigBangMeteor, Disquieted
banana spritzee (0):
sb (0):
Yaersulf (0):
Tom (0):
NekoNekoRex (0):
BigBangMeteor (0):
Fabloo (0):
PX (0):

There are currently 2 male characters and 11 female characters in the game.
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Not voting: Daiya

Time until day phase ends: [ Expired ]

NucleusWaffles · « **Reply #1502 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:54:30 AM »

I don't know what I should do and who to trust.

Please give me some time to think. And read.

Just now I have been cut many times and lurkers have all come out online. This is very exciting and makes almost no sense to me.

I want to fullclaim, but I cannot until I succesfully back up someone, through them dying through a nightkill.
Then, I can safely fullclaim

I don't mind targeting NNR if this clears my doubt, but I cannot then, safely fullclaim.

I can only hope this message can get through clearly amidst all the tension.
We are all here, there's an hour and plenty of time.

I don't understand the Serela counterclaim, I need to actually think this out, but its quite hard to think under all this pressure

cut 3,
then cut 8

Fabloo · « **Reply #1503 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:55:06 AM »

Quote from: NucleusWaffles on April 21, 2020, 12:54:30 AM

I don't know what I should do and who to trust.

Please give me some time to think. And read.

Just now I have been cut many times and lurkers have all come out online. This is very exciting and makes almost no sense to me.

I want to fullclaim, but I cannot until I succesfully back up someone, through them dying through a nightkill.
Then, I can safely fullclaim

I don't mind targeting NNR if this clears my doubt, but I cannot then, safely fullclaim.

I can only hope this message can get through clearly amidst all the tension.
We are all here, there's an hour and plenty of time.

I don't understand the Serela counterclaim, I need to actually think this out, but its quite hard to think under all this pressure

cut 3,
then cut 8

OK. Either Nucleus is the greatest scum player ever or he's real.

I'm back on Serela.

##Vote: Serela

Daiya · « **Reply #1504 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:55:42 AM »

i'll wait for what both of them have to say. my vote goes on serela atm, for clarity's sake

##Vote: Serela

and as much as i dislike tom's slot, i wouldn't be okay with lynching him while he isn't even here.

Dormio Ergo Sum · « **Reply #1505 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:57:03 AM »

Votecount
Serela (5): NekoNekoRex, PX, raikaria, Fabloo, Daiya (L-2!)
NucleusWaffles (3): Serela, Yaersulf, sb
Disquieted (2): banana spritzee, Tom
raikaria (2): NucleusWaffles
Daiya (2): BigBangMeteor, Disquieted
banana spritzee (0):
sb (0):
Yaersulf (0):
Tom (0):
NekoNekoRex (0):
BigBangMeteor (0):
Fabloo (0):
PX (0):

There are currently 2 male characters and 11 female characters in the game.
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Not voting: Nobody!
Serela is at L-2!

Time until day phase ends: [ Expired ]

Fabloo · « **Reply #1506 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:57:09 AM »

Nucleus has

- Crumbed his role D1. Talked about the mechanics specifying them. Wanted others to out their gender in order to help facilitate his role.
- Outed his role without no preemptive pressure and maybe like one vote on him. Claimed a role that likely a newbie wouldn't know about. Has alluded to restrictions and mechanics that clearly affect the game

Meanwhile Serela has

- Counterclaimed last minute, said he's pretty much the same but no restrictions.

Do we seriously believe Serela now? Seriously?

Fabloo · « **Reply #1507 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:57:56 AM »

So let's say Serela isn't real. Fine. Nucleus is outed and we have a free scum. The actual role that either Backup is still hidden.

Go through with this.

Disquieted · « **Reply #1508 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:58:08 AM »

Fabloo do you need to go back and reread Serela's reaction to the claim

Fabloo · « **Reply #1509 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:58:54 AM »

Sorry. Let's say Serela is real.

Either way works for me. This is a net positive.

Disquieted · « **Reply #1510 on:** April 21, 2020, 12:59:28 AM »

WHAT HAPPENED TO LYNCHING OUTSIDE OF THE CLAIMS, FABLOO

Fabloo · « **Reply #1511 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:00:11 AM »

Quote from: Disquieted on April 21, 2020, 12:59:28 AM

WHAT HAPPENED TO LYNCHING OUTSIDE OF THE CLAIMS, FABLOO

Changed my mind. You guys will shout down either one and it's best we rip the bandaid off. This is a counter-claim situation. We have scum either way and it will show who didn't wanna vote who. This is perfect.

Yaersulf · « **Reply #1512 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:00:27 AM »

Actually it is an important point that Nucleus was the first to bring up gender as a mechanic in the game, which was later confirmed by PX/Fabloo. So Nucleus definitely has some kind of power role, that's basically confirmed.

Cut by 3

Disquieted · « **Reply #1513 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:01:29 AM »

Mafia SUX

Yaersulf · « **Reply #1514 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:01:41 AM »

I will swap to Serela in time to hammer btw, as long as we're lynching either Serela or Nucleus I'm fine with this.

Fabloo · « **Reply #1515 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:02:33 AM »

Quote from: Yaersulf on April 21, 2020, 01:00:27 AM

Actually it is an important point that Nucleus was the first to bring up gender as a mechanic in the game, which was later confirmed by PX/Fabloo. So Nucleus definitely has some kind of power role, that's basically confirmed.

Cut by 3

This is a super important aspect by the way. Nucleus isn't a regular goon. This trade-off is fine. I actually just think Serela is scum and the team is getting desperate.

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #1516 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:03:20 AM »

Wtf no serela's claim is way townier than nucleus.

Serela's immediate vote reads very much like someone trying to get someone lynched without having to CC. Nucleus's role with all the restrictions reads much more like a third party role. Backup is not traditionally a role with these restrictions.

Disquieted · « **Reply #1517 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:04:10 AM »

This isn't how this game should be going and Nucleus could just be 3p but go off I guess, scum are desperate on D2 with no scum lynches and we don't have a clue who we're lynching all day

Fabloo · « **Reply #1518 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:04:46 AM »

Quote from: BigBangMeteor on April 21, 2020, 01:03:20 AM

Wtf no serela's claim is way townier than nucleus.

Serela's immediate vote reads very much like someone trying to get someone lynched without having to CC. Nucleus's role with all the restrictions reads much more like a third party role. Backup is not traditionally a role with these restrictions.

We're not in a traditional game. No way Nucleus is third party. The guy still doesn't even wanna claim his flavor. This is not a person with a scumteam!

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #1519 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:05:33 AM »

There are I'm sure backup aspects to nucleus's role but it reads very much like some sort of third party mimic/gravedigger third party

@fabloo Yeah maybe because he's third party BSing...?

Fabloo · « **Reply #1520 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:05:51 AM »

If Serela is real

Free red lynch. We get to see who wanted to vote Serela off instead.

If not

Free red lynch. We get to see who didn't want to vote Serela.

and on D2? This isn't even MYLO or LYLO.

Fabloo · « **Reply #1521 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:07:54 AM »

Quote from: Serela on April 21, 2020, 12:17:54 AM

"hello I am the town tracker please nightkill me faster scum"

i legit thought the claim looked bad but I am admittedly wearing very biased glasses

Serela just tried to say he was town tracker

Guy doesn't even know what's claiming anymore...

NekoNekoRex · « **Reply #1522 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:08:04 AM »

Is there any proof the flavor restrictions actually mean anything outside the one role claim

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #1523 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:08:40 AM »

Fabloo if you have some role reason related to your specific role that you think serela is lying then say that (you don't have to say why) and I'll lynch serela. But purely off the claims and the timing, serela's CC looks legit.

If serela is legit we're lynching our second tracker lol. Whereas if nucleus is legit we're lynching some iffy backup thing with restrictions that at best can backup our protective role but probably will achieve nothing.

Yaersulf · « **Reply #1524 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:09:08 AM »

Quote from: Fabloo on April 21, 2020, 01:07:54 AM

Serela just tried to say he was town tracker

Guy doesn't even know what's claiming anymore...

This actually checks out, I looked up universal backup and if it works like how it says on mafiascum wiki he would have gotten the role from zwerd when zwerd died.

BigBangMeteor · « **Reply #1525 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:09:13 AM »

Quote from: Fabloo on April 21, 2020, 01:07:54 AM

Serela just tried to say he was town tracker

Guy doesn't even know what's claiming anymore...

Yes because UB automatically takes over the first power role that dies.

Daiya · « **Reply #1526 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:09:16 AM »

Quote from: Fabloo on April 21, 2020, 01:07:54 AM

Serela just tried to say he was town tracker

Guy doesn't even know what's claiming anymore...

um no, backup -> zeep dies -> tracker

Fabloo · « **Reply #1527 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:10:03 AM »

Quote from: NekoNekoRex on April 21, 2020, 01:08:04 AM

Is there any proof the flavor restrictions actually mean anything outside the one role claim

YES.

Disquieted · « **Reply #1528 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:10:14 AM »

Fabloo is wrong, this is all well and good, but who are we LYNCHING

sb · « **Reply #1529 on:** April 21, 2020, 01:10:42 AM »

Why did this all have to happen at 2am?