Ys Mafia (Current Phase: Game Over!)

[Fabloo]

discriminately giving such information to both town and scum is better than dying with it when theres a chance that scum knows some of this regardless

No. Why would you think this? Scum isn't going to know everything.

[zwerdjib]

No. Why would you think this? Scum isn't going to know everything.

theyre not, but we know nothing beyond what our role pms tell us

[Polaris]

i mean there's a very easy interpretation which allows fabloo to be 100% telling the truth and still be anti-town, and thats
~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~

[Fabloo]

i mean there's a very easy interpretation which allows fabloo to be 100% telling the truth and still be anti-town, and thats
~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~

Do you really want to do this?

[Yaersulf]

The weird thing is, Fabloo's gambit can't work if he's scum.

Either he's lynched today or I get lynched, flip town, and then you know he's scum, I don't get it. :v

And if he was telling the truth about his role then he wouldn't be calling me scum.

Cut by 2

[Fabloo]

The weird thing is, Fabloo's gambit can't work if he's scum.

Either he's lynched today or I get lynched, flip town, and then you know he's scum, I don't get it. :v

And if he was telling the truth about his role then he wouldn't be calling me scum.

Cut by 2

This is not a gambit.

[zwerdjib]

i mean there's a very easy interpretation which allows fabloo to be 100% telling the truth and still be anti-town, and thats
~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~

this is what i thought too, but then he doesnt claim in the first place

he sits back and decides who hes going to align with

[Serela]

also, serelers, we need your read on fabloo. even if its outdated, you still fire trucking owe it

um this happened a long time ago :S go read post 265, also I answered more fabloo questions in 309

fabloo in what way is your role confirmable please
I mean if you're using it to confirm your role you're gonna have to tell us later assuming you were to theoretically live, so

Yaersulf:I was under the impression he was just OMGUS (omg you suck) voting you which is kind of uhhhh, but if that's actually a role thing apparently, clarification would be cool

[Fabloo]

um this happened a long time ago :S go read post 265, also I answered more fabloo questions in 309

fabloo in what way is your role confirmable please
I mean if you're using it to confirm your role you're gonna have to tell us later assuming you were to theoretically live, so

Yaersulf:I was under the impression he was just OMGUS (omg you suck) voting you which is kind of uhhhh, but if that's actually a role thing apparently, clarification would be cool

He's already been sorta roleplaying about it but two in two together. We're both gods and in a masonry.

[Fabloo]

Dormio must feel irony seeing me in the same situation as him last game.

[Serela]

oh strawberries do we have masons again

also are you saying yaersulf is literally scum from a role-based standpoint or you were just assuming based on his play or osmething

[zwerdjib]

um this happened a long time ago :S go read post 265, also I answered more fabloo questions in 309

you did. i cant read

my bad

[Polaris]

ahahahahaahahahaaaaahahahahahhahhahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahhahahahaha

[Dormio Ergo Sum]

Votecount
Fabloo (5): Serela, NucleusWaffles, Tom, Polaris, Yaersulf
Tom (2): raikaria, Daiya
NekoNekoRex (1): PX
Disquieted (1): zwerdjib
Yaersulf (1): Fabloo
meow56 (1): BigBangMeteor
Bardiche (0):
Polaris (0):
raikaria (0):
PX (0):
Daiya (0):
NucleusWaffles (0):
zwerdjib (0):
Serela (0):
BigBangMeteor (0):

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to lynch!
Not voting: meow56, Yaersulf, banana spritzee, Disquieted

Time until day phase ends: [ Expired ]

[PX]

We are catching up, but We shall indeed confirm.

Fabloo is indeed Our dearest sister, one of the twin Goddesses of Ys

[zwerdjib]

He's already been sorta roleplaying about it but two in two together. We're both gods and in a masonry.

dooooRMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Fabloo]

Imagine how strange it will be for meow56 to come in here knowing his top two scumreads are both town masons and actual gods.

[Serela]

The weird thing is, Fabloo's gambit can't work if he's scum.

Either he's lynched today or I get lynched, flip town, and then you know he's scum, I don't get it. :v

And if he was telling the truth about his role then he wouldn't be calling me scum.

also, scum gambits where they're probably being lynched, and they claim whatever they think will let them survive one more night, are not unusual

It means instead of town lynching scum, town mislynches another townie! This would occur in cases where the scum is pretty sure they're going to be lynched otherwise. Delaying their own death by one day is a pretty good outcome

WELP PX IS MASONS WITH FABLOO. ok uh
##unvote
uhhhhhhhhh. i was not prepared for this

[BigBangMeteor]

my first draft of this post was cut by 22 posts

anyways I don't want to lynch Fabloo. I've given my reasons for it before. He's too active in a hostile way to be active lurking. The point of active lurking is to post a bunch of stuff that doesn't really draw any attention so that people just put you in their head as "trying" but without really reading your posts carefully.

I would much rather lynch meow or NNR over Fabloo or Tom. NNR's latest couple posts don't do much. It's generally a scumtell for me when someone prioritizes their time towards unimportant content (calling a bunch of people town or saying they're vaguely suspicious but he needs to read more) vs pushing cases or talking about primary scumreads. None of the people except maybe meow is even a general topic of discussion.

If I have to lynch between Fabloo and Tom I would rather do Tom just because I think Tom's posts are going to be a pain for people to deal with all game but people should sheep my meow or NNR cases instead.

[BigBangMeteor]

lol d1 mason claims

[Fabloo]

Where is Yearsulf now?

[NekoNekoRex]

god damn it

[Yaersulf]

Waiting for you to confirm whether your role tells you my role or not.

Cut by Neko

[Serela]

i'm trying to evaluate how likely it is that scum would fakeclaim masons together d1

i mean, it's pretty likely to steer town ten miles away from them, but if the other scum(s? is 4 scum in 15p realistic? I'm not used to games over 13p) are lynched before them the game is pretty much lost. if 2 masons were still alive in lylo after claiming d1 I would be suspicious. See:Previous game, where I copped the masons :U

ok could there be 4 scum, lets run numbers
that's 11 v 4, assuming no third party, which 4 scum would probably mean no third party in this player size
3 mislynches/nks later, we enter Day 4 at.. 5v4, which is lylo. Hmm. Day 4 isn't bad. It's a possibility I think, do other people have better experience with large player count games

[Fabloo]

This is the scumteam getting a wrench thrown into their plans. It's funny.

[Polaris]

ok but what if they were
~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~THIRD PARTY~*~

[Fabloo]

Yeah the two goddesses who are guardians of the black pearl that would cause imminent destruction to the world are definitely third party.

[Polaris]

i mean when you put it like that it actually makes even more sense

[Serela]

...it actually kind of does

does "omnipotent god with mason partner and they can see all hidden game mechanics and alter them" sound like not-a-third-party to you

[NekoNekoRex]

if I were scum I would have said 'god damn it' in the quicktopic / whatever they're using instead, if that was directed at me.

I'm mildly miffed to be away for 20 minutes to come back to this though