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What is the difference between the current internet and the late 2000s of it?
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SeroVich:
It is really interesting how the internet was while I was a little lad. I want to know each era's pro's and con's.

So, tell me please ho was everything before. And thank you in response.
Tengukami:
This is a really broad question!

But for starters, this very forum is a product of that era. I mean MySpace and Friendster before it existed but most of what I remember being the places people gathered and hung out and talked together online 15 to 20 years ago was:

1. Forums
2. Blogs
3. Sketchy Java-run chat rooms
4. IRC
5. Novelty websites that had their own chat section, either a live chat or some kinda mini-forum
6. Imageboards

Also, I don't know if this is true but it feels like there used to be a lot more hyper-specific specialised websites?

Like any sort of business, enterprise or project had a website prior to social media, yeah, but also people would concoct these whack-ass websites that were more like stand-alone works of art. Bonzai Kitten immediately springs to mind.

A lot of it sucked tbh, but thats the internet as a whole. It was a lot easier to lie online, and video players were atrocious.

Idk, I kinda miss pre-social media internet but what can you do?
Felis-Licht:

--- Quote from: SirtheBastard on August 26, 2023, 11:58:50 AM ---It is really interesting how the internet was while I was a little lad. I want to know each era's pro's and con's.

So, tell me please ho was everything before. And thank you in response.

--- End quote ---
Back in the day, the net was like the wild west. There's a lot I could say, but I only vaguely know of some since I was on and off during that time as a kid. Far as I know, people could freely make dark jokes and no one got offended over them because they knew it was a joke, politics was laughed at and didn't turn people into braindead rabid animals, social media and corporate owned stuff wasn't taking over and censoring everything like it does now, majority of people didn't think fictional characters actually represented reality or treated them as if they were real, spam and chain mail everywhere. Basically think of how the net is like now but the opposite.
As fun as old internet was sometimes back in the day, I can't say it's entirely good since stuff like shock sites, gore, and whatever else were prevalent especially in regards to drama or trolling people.
I could give you a few videos that show off some stuff from old internet culture, one by Izzzyzzz (who's got a few here and there) and others by Whang! since he covers a lot of them. Forewarning of the content though.

This mostly how I remembered old internet at the time, thankfully I never saw nor experienced the absolute worst of it.
nav:
Never forget the living fossil that is Gamefaqs. These plain text guides are an invaluable cultural treasure.
nintendonut888:

--- Quote ---Far as I know, people could freely make dark jokes and no one got offended over them because they knew it was a joke, politics was laughed at and didn't turn people into braindead rabid animals, social media and corporate owned stuff wasn't taking over and censoring everything like it does now, majority of people didn't think fictional characters actually represented reality or treated them as if they were real, spam and chain mail everywhere.
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I wouldn't be so rosy about it. Nostalgia could never blind me to how awful a lot of the humor was back in the 2000s, and a lot of people not making a fuss was really people not caring about who they stepped on or being worried about being singled out for raising an objection. For how many problems Internet culture has today, I think things have gotten better in a lot of important ways.

As for the main question, probably one of the biggest things I can say about the old Internet that was far better than what we have now is moderation. On small forums or even large forums with smaller boards like GameFAQs, it was far more possible to both keep the peace and keep out bad elements. After a while on the old MoTK you grew to be aware of what Twitter would now call Characters of the Day, and depending on how bad they were it would be weeks to months before they were banned and business resumed as usual. I think given the state of social media most would agree there comes a point when any meaningful moderation becomes impossible, and I do hope one day there is a renaissance for small forums like these.
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