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Touhou 1cc Difficulty List

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ZPS:
Note that this list is still incomplete, it's still missing a few Seihou game, LNB, and many shot type rankings. I'm undecided on whether or not to include LNNs and ExNNs due to them being inherently luck dependent. Fangames might also be added at some point but I'm not sure of that either. It's also entirely possible that these rankings will change at some point.

I've been working on a list of how hard each Touhou game is, inspired by the Japanese STG Wiki difficulty list (English translation) that ranks arcade shmup difficulty. The list works on a scale of 0-50, with higher numbers being harder. I tried to make this list equivalent to the Japanese STG Wiki one, so for example a 20 on that list would be about the same as a 20 on this list. Games with no number are equal to the number of the game above.

# | Game | Achievement | Notes37 | Undefined Fantastic Object | LNBNV | Reimu A, No UFOs summoned and no tokens are identical35 | Seihou Shuusou Gyoku | LNB | 32 | Undefined Fantastic Object | LNB | Reimu A, +1 for Sanae B, +3 for others | Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom | LNB | Reimu, +3 for others29 | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | LNB | Reimu B | Perfect Cherry Blossom | LNBNBB | Reimu B or Sakuya B28 | Imperishable Night | LNB | Border Team, Final A | Mountain of Faith | LNB | Reimu B | Subterranean Animism | LNB | Reimu A27 | Ten Desires | LNBNT | Reimu or Marisa26 | Perfect Cherry Blossom | LNB | Reimu B or Sakuya B, lower with heavier border break abuse25 | Seihou Shuusou Gyoku | Lunatic | 24 | Mystic Square | LNB | Mima | Ten Desires | LNB | Reimu or Marisa, with trances23 | Lotus Land Story | LNB | Marisa A, +1 for Reimu A and Reimu B, +3 for Marisa B | Undefined Fantastic Object | Lunatic | Reimu A or Sanae B, +3 for Marisa B, +1 for others | Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream | Lunatic | Reimu or Yumemi, -5 with autofire21 | Story of Eastern Wonderland | Lunatic | Reimu A, -4 with autofire | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | Lunatic | Reimu B or Marisa B | Subterranean Animism | Lunatic | Reimu A | Double Dealing Character | Lunatic | Reimu A, Sakuya A, or Marisa B, +2 for Reimu B, +6 for Marisa A or Sakuya B | Ten Desires | ExNBNT | +2 for Sanae20 | Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom | Lunatic | Reisen, +1 for Sanae, +3 for Reimu, +4 for Marisa | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | ExNC | | Double Dealing Character | ExNB | Reimu A or Sakuya A19 | Ten Desires | Lunatic | Reimu, Marisa, or Youmu, +2 for Sanae | Ten Desires | ExNB | +2 for Sanae | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | Lunatic | Reimu or Marisa, Winter or Autumn, +1 for Aya or Cirno, +3 for Spring or Summer18 | Highly Responsive to Prayers | Lunatic | | Mystic Square | Lunatic | Mima | Perfect Cherry Blossom | Lunatic | Reimu B or Sakuya A, +1 for Sakuya B, +2 for others | Undefined Fantastic Object | Hard | Reimu A or Sanae B | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | LNC | Aya or Medicine | Imperishable Night | ExNB | Border Team17 | Imperishable Night | Lunatic | Border Team Final A, +1 for Final B, +1 for other teams, +1 to +7 with solos | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | Lunatic | Otter, +2 for Wolf, +3 for Eagle, +5 for Youmu Eagle | Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream | Hard | Reimu or Yumemi | Mystic Square | ExNB | Mima | Subterranean Animism | ExNB | Reimu A16 | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | Lunatic | Reimu, -10 for Aya or Medicine, -1 to +5 with others | Mountain of Faith | Lunatic | Reimu B, -8 for Marisa B 3 power glitch | Subterranean Animism | Hard | Reimu A | Lotus Land Story | ExNB | Marisa A | Perfect Cherry Blossom | PhNBNBB | Reimu B or Sakuya B15 | Double Dealing Character | Hard | Reimu A or Sakuya A | Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom | Hard | Reisen | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | Hard | Marisa Otter | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | ExNB | Reimu B | Perfect Cherry Blossom | ExNBNBB | Reimu B or Sakuya B | Mountain of Faith | ExNB | Reimu B | Undefined Fantastic Object | ExNBNV | Sanae B14 | Lotus Land Story | Lunatic | Marisa A, +1 for Reimu A or Reimu B, +2 for Marisa B | Story of Eastern Wonderland | Hard | Reimu A or Reimu B | Perfect Cherry Blossom | PhNB | Reimu B or Sakuya B | Undefined Fantastic Object | ExNB | Sanae B13 | Highly Responsive to Prayers | Hard | | Mystic Square | Hard | Mima | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | Hard | Reimu or Marisa, Winter or Autumn | Perfect Cherry Blossom | ExNB | Reimu B or Sakuya B | Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom | Extra | Reisen12 | Seihou Kioh Gyoku | 1cc | Marie | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | Hard | Reimu | Ten Desires | Hard | Reimu | Subterranean Animism | Normal | Reimu A | Undefined Fantastic Object | Normal | Reimu A or Sanae B | Story of Eastern Wonderland | Extra | | Mystic Square | Extra | Mima | Subterranean Animism | Extra | Reimu A11 | Perfect Cherry Blossom | Hard | Reimu B, Sakuya A, or Sakuya B | Imperishable Night | Hard | Border Team | Mountain of Faith | Hard | Reimu B | Undefined Fantastic Object | Extra | Sanae B | Ten Desires | Extra | Reimu | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | ExNBNR | Reimu10 | Lotus Land Story | Hard | Marisa A | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | Hard | Reimu B or Marisa B | Double Dealing Character | Normal | Reimu A or Sakuya A | Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom | Normal | Reisen | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | ExNBNH | Marisa Wolf | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | ExNB | Reimu | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | Extra | Komachi | Double Dealing Character | Extra | Reimu A9 | Story of Eastern Wonderland | Normal | Reimu A or Reimu B | Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream | Normal | Reimu or Yumemi | Lotus Land Story | Extra | Marisa A | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | Extra | Reimu B or Marisa A, +1 for others | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | ExNB | Otter8 | Highly Responsive to Prayers | Normal | | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | Normal | Reimu B or Marisa B | Perfect Cherry Blossom | Extra | Reimu B, Sakuya A, or Sakuya B | Perfect Cherry Blossom | Phantasm | Reimu B, Sakuya A, or Sakuya B | Imperishable Night | Extra | Border Team | Mountiain of Faith | Extra | Reimu B7 | Mystic Square | Normal | Mima | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | Normal | Reimu or Marisa, Winter or Autumn | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | Normal | Otter | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | Extra | Reimu | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | Extra | Marisa Otter6 | Lotus Land Story | Normal | Marisa A | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | Normal | Reimu | Mountain of Faith | Normal | Reimu B | Ten Desires | Normal | Reimu | Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom | Easy | Reisen5 | Perfect Cherry Blossom | Normal | Reimu B, Sakuya A, or Sakuya B | Imperishable Night | Normal | Border Team | Subterranean Animism | Easy | Reimu A | Undefined Fantastic Object | Easy | Reimu A or Sanae B4 | Perfect Cherry Blossom | Easy | Reimu B, Sakuya A, or Sakuya B | Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream | Easy | Reimu or Yumemi3 | VIVIT-99 | 1st Place | +2 for Hirano | Highly Responsive to Prayers | Easy | | Story of Eastern Wonderland | Easy | | Mystic Square | Easy | Mima | The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil | Easy | Reimu B or Marisa B | Double Dealing Character | Easy | Reimu A or Sakuya A2 | Lotus Land Story | Easy | Marisa A | Phantasmagoria of Flower View | Easy | -1 for Aya and Medicine | Mountain of Faith | Easy | Reimu B | Ten Desires | Easy | | Hidden Star in Four Seasons | Easy | Reimu or Marisa, Winter or Autumn | Wily Beast and Weakest Creature | Easy | Otter1 | Imperishable Night | Easy | Border Team

latiasred:
thats interesting, so SA normal reimuA is about as hard as soew extra and nothing gets easier than easy IN border team
i cant even play lunatic yet, but why is reimuB lunatic no bomb in mof so hard?
and looks like my highest rated achievement is ddc normal sakuyaA at a 10 (technically i did normal sa reimuA but i used a patch that seems to slightly boost power soo doesnt count)

thatonefrogxd / Gren:
That's an interesting looking list, to say the least. pun not intended

Basing on it's current state, it seems my best achievement so far is SA Reimu A Lunatic 1cc. Good enough, I suppose.

Although, will there be any mentions of No Focus achievements or are these not worth for consideration? :eyes:

Python:
If I were to go off of my "greatest" achievement, that being a Lunatic 1cc of HSiFS with Reimu-Autumn, that would rank me at #19, correct? It feels so wrong because Reimu and Autumn made the game a hilarious releasefest that I somehow powered through with next to no actual dodging skill to back it up. It would also imply I could do things like UFO Hard, to which I say nay sire, I can't!

A more serious ranking based on my most serious greatest achievement would rank me at #11 for clearing IN Hard with the Border Team.

raikaria:
 Double Dealing Character   | Normal   | Reimu A or Sakuya A
| Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom   | Normal   | Reisen

I greatly disagree with DDC Normal being rated the same as LLK Normal.

DDC Normal I have managed to *almost* 1CC, getting all the way to the final spellcard.

LLC Normal I can't even 1CC Stage 3. There feels like there is a vast difficulty gulf between these two. Also if I recall ZUN said in part he made LLK hard specifically in comparison to DDC and TD feedback about being too easy.

Likewise PCB being as low as it is surprises me, because it's also one of the games I haven't 1CC'ed on Normal. [DDC; LLC; PCB; SA and UFO being these games; while I have 1CC'ed EoSD; IN; MoF and 10D.]

I mean; if I were to rank the Windows Era games [Barring PofV] from easiest to hardest:

MoF - My easiest 1CC; didn't take too long to acheive

IN - Only game I've 1CC'ed with 2 shottypes; Scarlet and Magic. Ironically despite Border being listed here I haven't beaten it with Border because I personally find the Marisa fight far harder than the Reimu fight. Marisa kicks my butt six ways; Reimu I can do death/bombless.

10D - It took a fair bit of effort for me to do this, but not too much. 10D Extra is my best Extra stage, I can *almost* beat it.

EoSD: This took a lot of attempts to do, and is my most recent 1CC

DDC - I can get to Sukana's final spellcard. Very close to the 1CC here

PCB - I can make it about halfway through Yuyuko.

SA - I've made it to Utusho once. I've also 1CC'ed Easy, the only game I've done Easy 1CC on.

UFO - I can hardly make Stage 5

LLK - I can't even 1CC Stage 3.

HHiFK and WBWC I haven't actually played so can't rank.

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