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Touhou lost media
« on: August 15, 2024, 11:48:09 PM »
Y'know, after discovering that EoSD had a bunch of early trial builds that unfortunately went lost forever (due to their download pages not being archived, although 2 builds have been found), i do wonder if Touhou has its own fair share of lost media. Cancelled games, planned features, cut characters (like Rin Satsuki) or even pictures or music! i mean Touhou as a franchise is very old so it's possible that there is some lost media out there waiting to be discovered, who knows maybe we could find something interesting...
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Re: Touhou lost media
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2024, 01:21:53 AM »
Something that immediately comes to mind for me is that PoDD was originally intended to be horizontally-scrolling, and was called Yumejikan instead of Yumejikuu.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2024, 06:13:54 AM »
Memories of Phantasm fan anime probably has some scripts that were left over when the series ended. They even published one script with very limited, visual novel style animation.

EDIT: Well, they had at least one script left over. Now they're restarting production again for at least one episode.
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Re: Touhou lost media
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2024, 08:38:10 AM »
Memories of Phantasm fan anime probably has some scripts that were left over when the series ended. They even published one script with very limited, visual novel style animation.

EDIT: Well, they had at least one script left over. Now they're restarting production again for at least one episode.

Hold on, ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE ANOTHER EPISODE?!?
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Re: Touhou lost media
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2024, 08:40:05 AM »
Something that immediately comes to mind for me is that PoDD was originally intended to be horizontally-scrolling, and was called Yumejikan instead of Yumejikuu.


Hotizontally-scrolling Touhou game? Damn, that would have been pretty cool yet weird. Imagine if ZUN went along with it, maybe Touhou games would be all horizontal scrollers instead of vertical
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2024, 07:14:26 PM »
Since the original idea for PoDD has already been mentioned, the other major example, and only Touhou game made by ZUN to be unavailable for play, is Touhou Gold Rush. Made after Impossible Spell Card, ZUN essentially made a game for an event in three days where Seija uses the True Miracle Mallet (not the fake one she uses in ISC) to rob Reimu in a brief, 2-3 minute game. Because it was made in a very short period of time and by ZUN's admission does not fit into canon (since Seija shouldn't be able to use the mallet), it was never released publically and only videos of it in a crowded venue exist.

In my opinion, the more intriguing piece of lost media for this project isn't the game, but the music used in it. ZUN stated that during the game, an arrangement of Little Princess plays in the background which he made specifically for the game and, to my knowledge, has never been released elsewhere. Since the game's audio is completely drowned out in existing videos, this song essentially cannot be listened to in any form. Though it likely is an instrumentation change like you often hear in the music CDs.

And on that note, one last piece of lost media, though technically it is not Touhou. The earliest prototype version of Shuusou Gyoku, the first Seihou game, had a different soundtrack than what was used in demos and the full game, with three exclusive tracks. While two of these were uploaded by ZUN to his personal website back in the day, one of them, "Frontal Attack," has never been released outside of this prototype. It can be heard in this video recorded by Shuusou Gyoku's creator, but covered up with sound effects and, I believe, does not fully loop. It is, I believe, the only known song made by ZUN to be truly lost media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIPsX5kBVLc
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Re: Touhou lost media
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2024, 09:02:30 PM »
Since the original idea for PoDD has already been mentioned, the other major example, and only Touhou game made by ZUN to be unavailable for play, is Touhou Gold Rush. Made after Impossible Spell Card, ZUN essentially made a game for an event in three days where Seija uses the True Miracle Mallet (not the fake one she uses in ISC) to rob Reimu in a brief, 2-3 minute game. Because it was made in a very short period of time and by ZUN's admission does not fit into canon (since Seija shouldn't be able to use the mallet), it was never released publically and only videos of it in a crowded venue exist.

In my opinion, the more intriguing piece of lost media for this project isn't the game, but the music used in it. ZUN stated that during the game, an arrangement of Little Princess plays in the background which he made specifically for the game and, to my knowledge, has never been released elsewhere. Since the game's audio is completely drowned out in existing videos, this song essentially cannot be listened to in any form. Though it likely is an instrumentation change like you often hear in the music CDs.

And on that note, one last piece of lost media, though technically it is not Touhou. The earliest prototype version of Shuusou Gyoku, the first Seihou game, had a different soundtrack than what was used in demos and the full game, with three exclusive tracks. While two of these were uploaded by ZUN to his personal website back in the day, one of them, "Frontal Attack," has never been released outside of this prototype. It can be heard in this video recorded by Shuusou Gyoku's creator, but covered up with sound effects and, I believe, does not fully loop. It is, I believe, the only known song made by ZUN to be truly lost media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIPsX5kBVLc

Oh yeah i already heard of Gold Rush, though that little tidbit about the game's music makes it all the more interesting and mysterious
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Re: Touhou lost media
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2024, 09:20:08 AM »
Oh i just remembered. A user on another thread mentioned various doujin works that are very old and are the "first of X", like the first remix, the first fan-art etc. Among all of these, he mentioned a doujin comic called "The septentrion of the late princess" which was apparently the first fan-comic made about Touhou. It was allegedly published in 2002 at comiket 63. I wonder if people have already found this comic or if it's just another piece of lost media, because finding it would be a pretty significant event considering it's the earliest Touhou fan-comic ever made. There should be some kind of search party LOL  :cirnotan:
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2024, 02:36:34 PM »
Oh i just remembered. A user on another thread mentioned various doujin works that are very old and are the "first of X", like the first remix, the first fan-art etc. Among all of these, he mentioned a doujin comic called "The septentrion of the late princess" which was apparently the first fan-comic made about Touhou. It was allegedly published in 2002 at comiket 63. I wonder if people have already found this comic or if it's just another piece of lost media, because finding it would be a pretty significant event considering it's the earliest Touhou fan-comic ever made. There should be some kind of search party LOL  :cirnotan:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/septentrion_for_a_dead_princess

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