Makes sense, I'd only skimmed the very top of the pile.
Anyway, it seems the majority of the posts are zwerdjib and Nuxl posting everything that pops into their brains and overthinking things. Something that keeps coming up is "Meta".
Allow me to address that:
1: It's been like; 2~3 years since the last MotK Mafia. The "Meta" could likly have changed. Especially considering there are new players so even if everyone played the same, new players could disrupt the "Meta"
2: Meta is generally scum low-effort and don't contribute much. Town chase each other in tails trying to find scummy things and make cases so they look like they are making ~effort~ to look like town. However, by virtue of posting more content, there is more for the other townies to use to try and make some sort of case. This leads to town lynching town while scum just lurks; wagons, or pushes wagons.
Except we also have players who always low-effort like NekoNekoRex. And of course, people's lives have changed. My activity is going to be absolutely nowhere near where it used to be, for example.
tl;dr: You newcomers really shouldn't worry about the "Meta". Your very existence makes any previous "Meta" irrelevant anyway.
okay but that's not what meta means. it's an attributed tool you can pinpoint differences between how a player plays as one alignment compared to the other. additionally you can connect trends from one game to another provided it's relevant. lot of people are using this too liberally and at this point i'll just chalk it up to site differences
I think Prims' read is fine in that it's not scummy but I think non-sf/motk is so different (based more around townhunting instead of scumhunting) that I don't think it actually reflects badly on Nuxl, yet. I think that it becomes scummy if nothing changes over time, but it's not worth looking at for now.
Zeep, what alignment would you guess Nuxl as? There's a lot of Nuxl defence but I don't actually know what your read on him is. Cut: my question was literally "what do you think of Nuxl" so respond to this, I guess.
Nuxl, if I told you Oarfish has had a number of dubious plays in past games (remembering the Serela vengekill still makes me want to scream a little), what would your read on them be? I think seeing your notes now rather than later is good.
don't get what you mean by "reflects badly". why would their read reflect badly on me
dubious plays as both alignments or just as town? if it's just the latter then that's way more important thanks
(on smogon, certain players have really brazy town games but somehow get more composure as scum because they tend to be coached to make certain posts/gameplans. so that's why skill level is really important here)
my initial first read of them was that their entrance was pretty bad. not like scummy, it was just logically terrible. if someone like you made this post for example it would be a pretty big wtf for me. you can see that the logic behind it is so baffling right? the assumptions they made in their second post on 7 are not assumptions normal players would reach. there was an overt worrying about my amount of posts (instead of, you know, the content they provide which is stuff you can read. the entire thing about post volume is totally nai on a general sense but given i think dormio brought this up too then i have to assume that people on this site feel this way). some smogoners do stuff like this often and they're almost impossible to sort so they're just left for tailend of poe
but their anger in their response post to me led me to believe they had some sort of belief in their content and their push. so that's why i wanted to get a heads up on that slot. if it's a historical issue then it can be boxed
@Refa when you look at Niektory, i'm going to put out the person "Flee Fleet". does that ring a bell?