Raikaria, if you didn't like Duskfall even when you voted O4rfish, why did you wait until you had to back off O4rfish before bringing it up? This seems like an unnatural progression.
Because as I had previously stated, O4rfish's post I had previously disliked was in my opinion the worst post thus far in the thread. At the time; Duskfall was a minor dislike; and then when I re-read I felt worse about his posts, lack of explanations and seemingly random voting.
At best it's low-effort; at worst it's outright scummy; just throwing out random statements with no backing to look like he's trying at all.
You'll also notice I've been pretty consistent with being unhappy with people for voting with little~no explanation; and I've been pushing for people to actually explain their cases and votes. [I've even specifically asked for explanations on the Shadoweh votes multiple times and they still haven't materialized].
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Anyway; I'm awake now; and I shall be around until deadline [Deadline is 10pm my local time]. I'm actually somewhat alarmed at how close Abu is to being lynched at this point; if I'm not wrong he's L-1.
I mean, Abu's content really isn't great and doesn't really scream town, but it also doesn't seem to scream scum either. It's kind of a null read.
So I'm not
inherently against lynching him, although there's a few things about his wagon which seem a little concerning:
This is literally what I expect from scum trying to buy themselves a day lol. No crumbs or anything in your play suggesting you're vig.
It's Day 1. Abu hasn't been that active. Why do you think he'd have crumbed Vig so early? Dismissing his claim because 'He hasn't crumbed Vig when he's got low content and it's Day 1' seems a little... pushy.
If I'm scum, you would expect some people at least to be against my wagon, but for some reason everyone agrees I'm scum...
Or Scum could be happily letting Town push the wagon, or even be busing you thinking your lynch is likly; to earn towncred.
Serela in #599 and Dormio in #600 have good points.
I scumread NNR due to his suspicious Nuxl vote
If NNR is a scumread why isn't he a secondary vig option after Duskfall then?
Sidenote. lack of crumb is not important and I am surprised Prims cares for that.
I agree with this and it's good to see someone else thinks this.
I have the same townreads as nuxl
*Groans*. Another low-effort post from Duskfall; where he's basically just sheeping. Do you have these townreads for the same reasons? Do you share the null/scumreads? I really don't like things like this.
Abus claim doesn't make me want to unlynch, even if he is town vig which I doubt it's neg utility to let him live and shoot me who is town and also mostly townread o think?
So you want to lynch me regardless of my alignment just to save your butt?
I REALLY don't like Duskfall's 'I'm willing to lynch town to save my own butt' attitude here. Especially since if he's mostly townread and a vig has said he's gonna shoot him, a power role [blocker/doc ect] that townreads him would most likely intervene.
Also I'm unsure what is meant by 'open wolfing'.
You know what? Just lynch me, I couldn't care less anymore, it's not like anyone is hearing me.
Like seriously, people are voting me for half-assed reasons like Dan's and are getting away with it
fire truck this game, I'm out of here.
I'm not sure if this is scum throwing in the towel because he can't answer the questions, or just general frustration? I'd like you to come back and actually try to save your skin if you're town.
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tl;dr: I'm
fine with an Abu lynch, although I have concerns about Sir Arthur Ignatius Conan Touhou's pushing of said wagon; and Duskfall's 'Save my own butt' attitude.
I'd personally still rather lynch Duskfall, as his posts while I'm asleep don't townread to me on top of me already leaning scum on him.
I'm certainly not fine enough with an Abu lynch to hammer it 13 hours before deadline however.
Zwerd I'll never have a problem with being scumread as long as it makes sense, but raik kinda just went, oh wait I just noticed something scummy:
Insert whole tunnel of scummy things, which is fair if you have been tunneling me but it's not really fair to say "oh wait just noticed"
Because I'd previously only read your posts once, and on a re-read I had a second opinion and went from null to scum. That makes sense.
And when I make cases I usually do so in such a fashion. I'll notice something I don't like; then re-read other posts and interactions around that player specifically to see if there's more, good or bad. It's like a stream of thoughts.