Author Topic: Neo DEFCON Mafia (DEFCON 1, Phase 1) (Read 620005 times)

Bardiche · « **Reply #1080 on:** June 19, 2020, 12:43:39 PM »

I can live with that. In fact, using my Fail Safe involves pointedly not living with it.

raikaria · « **Reply #1081 on:** June 19, 2020, 01:02:16 PM »

Point still stands, Serela 100% loses if he dosen't No-Lynch.

He only 99% loses if he does since there's the possibility you shoot me instead of him.

Bardiche · « **Reply #1082 on:** June 19, 2020, 01:49:40 PM »

Literally the only situation in which I’d shoot you, is if I thought you wanted to hand Selery the win.

imo we’re just needlessly holding the game up, just self-hammer, Selery and I will kill each other and everyone dies.

raikaria · « **Reply #1083 on:** June 19, 2020, 01:58:50 PM »

I'm not self-hammering Bard.

I am going out in nuclear fire. After you and Serela cross-shot each other.

raikaria · « **Reply #1084 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:01:36 PM »

My wincon is I live, as the final member of Town, to self-hammer would be to play against my wincon.

Rules say play to win, my best play is No-Lynch.

You want to win Bard it'll be by my rules.

Serela · « **Reply #1085 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:09:18 PM »

raikaria are you daft

"Serela, you must no lynch to win!" LMAO you said yourself THE ONLY WAY THAT LETS ME WIN is if Bard STRAIGHT UP THROWS THE GAME FOR LITERALLY NO REASON. If Bard was so intent on committing suicide he'd just vote himself now but also why in god's name would that literally ever happen.

Either you lynch Bard with me or Bard wins. Literally every other universe in existence results in bard winning. Even if you gambit doc me and I nk bard he just failsafe nukes me and wins.

I'm really not sure why you went to the effort of typing out 15 posts to imply anything else was possible.

Also no i'm not really planning on commiting suicide, if Bard wants to end the game and win he can hammer no-lynch and commence the night phase to get his win.

Serela · « **Reply #1086 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:12:42 PM »

i guess bard could theoretically be lying and that's why he hasn't hammered no-lynch though.

hmm.

Serela · « **Reply #1087 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:21:07 PM »

no the idea that raikaria suspects bard might be lying and is gonna help me win by doccing me as i nightkill a failsafeless bard is stupid

if rai wanted me to win he'd just vote bard

this is dumb.

Serela · « **Reply #1088 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:22:20 PM »

i'm still not committing suicide though, literally my only hope is praying for salvation from riotkaria

I CAN WAIT FOR SALVATION FROM MY ONLY HOPE

NOT THAT RAIKARIA CARED WHEN I WAS HIS ONLY TRUE FRIEND IN EIMM WARNING HIM ABOUT DANGERS AND HE STABBED ME IN THE BACK *SOBS*

Serela · « **Reply #1089 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:27:22 PM »

Wait, no.

I see.

If Bard's not really a failsafe... if he's just been in defensive silo position all game for safety...

Then Bardiche is the actual kingmaker here in a no-lynch

Serela · « **Reply #1090 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:29:35 PM »

which also means he would have been praying i actually went and voted raikaria and got endgamed, rather than just no-lynching to end it already

raikaria · « **Reply #1091 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:39:43 PM »

Serela; the only way you win if we lynch Bard; or we NL and Bard shoots me.

But Lynching Bard also means I cannot in any way win. At all.

I'm not lynching Bard. At all.

So your only way to have anything above a 0% win chance is to No Lynch. Even if it's 0.01%.

raikaria · « **Reply #1092 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:41:31 PM »

Also I am calling Bard's bluff on Failsafe by No-Lynching. Because if you guys cross-kill and then Bard is bluffing, I win anyway.

This is why No-Lynch is my best wincon.

You lynch me, you always lose Serela.

Bard and me both have reasons to not vote Bard.

No-Lynch is your only hope at all.

Serela · « **Reply #1093 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:44:09 PM »

eh yeah

if bard's not a failsafe he's kingmakering so one of us could win I guess (which also means there's no reason for you to help me win because in that scenario you can win)

and if he is a failsafe we've just both guaranteed lost because due to that possibility he's not, you have no reason to help me win

i guess that's that then! let's all lose together

##Vote No Lynch

Serela · « **Reply #1094 on:** June 19, 2020, 02:48:45 PM »

Quote

-You may continue to post between a Hammer and when a mod reaches the thread, but game actions will not be counted.

we can keep posting if we want btw

I already submitted my action to NNR and I suggest rai does the same so we can hopefully end this in a timely manner B)

raikaria · « **Reply #1095 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:05:57 PM »

And of course Serela, you need to kill Bard and hope he dosen't shoot me to win.

Bard; if you're actually failsafe; you need to shoot Serela and then we go into the unusual situation of a day phase with only a townie alive but the game not yet being over.

Serela · « **Reply #1096 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:20:02 PM »

eh I doubt nnr would seriously make us wait it out :U i imagine he would just instantly land Bard's nuke on you, at worst waiting for bard to actually input it

raikaria · « **Reply #1097 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:21:40 PM »

Quote from: Serela on June 19, 2020, 03:20:02 PM

eh I doubt nnr would seriously make us wait it out :U i imagine he would just instantly land Bard's nuke on you, at worst waiting for bard to actually input it

I would be very unhappy if this occurs.

raikaria · « **Reply #1098 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:25:15 PM »

Oh yeah and Bard you should join us and Serela in submitting night actions so NNR can just immediately end the night phase.

Serela · « **Reply #1099 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:38:11 PM »

Quote from: raikaria on June 19, 2020, 03:21:40 PM

I would be very unhappy if this occurs.

you would be unhappy if you didn't have to sit here alone 48 hrs while we all groan and sigh and wonder why the game isn't over???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Serela · « **Reply #1100 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:42:56 PM »

well I guess you could commit suicide

but really this is basically along the lines of why, when there's 2 scum and 1 townie left, the mod doesn't actually start another game day. Why wait 12 hours for the two scum to show up and hammer the townie?

the game is already over.

Bardiche · « **Reply #1101 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:45:14 PM »

Welp, guess picking Radar was the worst decision. GG, I was so close.

Serela · « **Reply #1102 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:48:07 PM »

did you actually pick radar

as sk?

what does an sk even want with a tracker

Serela · « **Reply #1103 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:48:48 PM »

ftr i still couldn't have nuked bard because i'd have been confirmed scum due to cop/doc clears zzzzzz

Bardiche · « **Reply #1104 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:49:18 PM »

Nah, kidding, I am really, 100% serious the Fail Safe, I’m not gonna fire truck with you over the last night.

That said, I’m killing Serela and nuking Raikaria (if I am killed).

I was actually not sure if the nuke lands before game ends, hence why I preferred ending immediately but eh...

Serela · « **Reply #1105 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:52:06 PM »

i appreciate you being straight to the point, raikaria's ranting could have been summed up in like one post :U

yeah raikaria definitely doesn't win with a nuke flying towards him, but the only real change here is the form of the post NNR makes as soon as he wakes up, game still pretty much just ends. I highly doubt he'll make us wait out a 24hr night phase when it's 3p lylo and everyone already publically confirmed submitting

Bardiche · « **Reply #1106 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:52:28 PM »

That said, Serela, if somehow no one dies tonight, can we at least agree to turbo Raikaria so town doesn’t win? Because they could not be arsed to lynch you, and without the Cop prolly would not have lynched Dormio.

Really, it’s mostly power roles that landed us here, so let’s be petty and let me win ;D

Bardiche · « **Reply #1107 on:** June 19, 2020, 03:55:50 PM »

Also I srsly wish people’d rolled with me at least when I made the Picture Case.

I felt so clever, but as usual, the future refused to change...

Serela · « **Reply #1108 on:** June 19, 2020, 04:06:45 PM »

I mean, it wasn't a bad case, but I'd already nuked zoomy and when he flipped town it was all over :U

raikaria · « **Reply #1109 on:** June 19, 2020, 04:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Serela on June 19, 2020, 03:38:11 PM

you would be unhappy if you didn't have to sit here alone 48 hrs while we all groan and sigh and wonder why the game isn't over???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

No.

I'd be unhappy because of how the rules work and a nuke immediately hitting me would be bad.